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Nobody believes abortion is murder
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder
(April 7, 2013 at 8:54 am)A Theist Wrote: Despite the current abortion laws that deny personhood to the human fetus...I think those laws are wrong...I want to see an end to unlimited access to abortion on demand and heavily restricted only to cases involving rape and in cases where the life of the mother is threatened....Pro Abortionists seem to love that blood!

At least you're not confused about the difference between 'unlawful' and 'wrong'. Catfish seems to think gay marriage being unlawful is the key to the whole issue.

(April 8, 2013 at 9:51 am)A Theist Wrote: Personhood is actually defined in many ways, both legally and philosophically. At times in our country our laws denied personhood to slaves, women, children, and to those who didn't own property...by law they had very limited to no rights at all that the courts had to recognize...Were those laws just and right that denied personhood to those people? As far as I see it, life begins when the egg is fertilized...if there were no life in it, it wouldn't grow and develop...I don't buy into the potential life crap...it's either life, or it isn't...the 'potential life' term is just a campaigning strategy by the pro-abortion crowd to desensitize the public to abortion.

Good point, I would call BS on someone calling a fetus 'potentially alive' too, although I can't actually recall anyone using that phrase. Fetuses are alive. I don't see how 'being alive' is an argument against killing them, we kill things that are alive all the time. Isn't the actual argument, though, 'potentially a person'?

Arguments for abortion remaining legal include disagreeing when a fetus becomes a person. You think it's at conception, but I don't see how something that doesn't have a brain bigger than a fruit fly's can be considered a person. I couldn't say at what point it does become a person, that's like trying to say on what day does someone become an adult. Another argument is that, regardless of personhood, the State doesn't have (or should not have) the right to force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term (literally, forced labor) against her will.
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Nobody believes abortion is murder - by CapnAwesome - April 1, 2013 at 9:55 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by catfish - April 1, 2013 at 10:02 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by catfish - April 1, 2013 at 10:43 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Rev. Rye - April 1, 2013 at 10:20 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by catfish - April 1, 2013 at 10:46 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Shell B - April 1, 2013 at 11:36 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by catfish - April 1, 2013 at 10:55 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Foxaèr - April 1, 2013 at 11:04 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by A Theist - April 7, 2013 at 8:54 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Mister Agenda - April 8, 2013 at 12:31 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Rev. Rye - April 1, 2013 at 11:34 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Shell B - April 1, 2013 at 11:39 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by catfish - April 1, 2013 at 11:13 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Foxaèr - April 1, 2013 at 11:21 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by catfish - April 1, 2013 at 11:34 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Rev. Rye - April 1, 2013 at 11:37 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by catfish - April 1, 2013 at 11:38 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by fr0d0 - April 2, 2013 at 6:56 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by catfish - April 1, 2013 at 11:33 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by MysticKnight - April 1, 2013 at 11:25 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by MysticKnight - April 1, 2013 at 11:33 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Shell B - April 1, 2013 at 11:41 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by catfish - April 1, 2013 at 11:48 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Shell B - April 1, 2013 at 11:51 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by catfish - April 1, 2013 at 11:54 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Shell B - April 1, 2013 at 11:57 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by catfish - April 1, 2013 at 11:52 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Foxaèr - April 1, 2013 at 11:53 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by MysticKnight - April 2, 2013 at 12:02 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by catfish - April 2, 2013 at 12:08 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by MysticKnight - April 2, 2013 at 12:09 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Darkstar - April 2, 2013 at 12:11 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Shell B - April 2, 2013 at 12:05 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by MysticKnight - April 2, 2013 at 12:08 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by catfish - April 2, 2013 at 12:06 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by MysticKnight - April 2, 2013 at 12:14 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by MysticKnight - April 2, 2013 at 12:23 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by catfish - April 2, 2013 at 12:39 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by MysticKnight - April 2, 2013 at 12:27 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Shell B - April 2, 2013 at 12:26 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by catfish - April 2, 2013 at 12:36 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Shell B - April 2, 2013 at 12:41 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by catfish - April 2, 2013 at 12:50 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Shell B - April 2, 2013 at 12:36 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by justin - April 2, 2013 at 12:54 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by MysticKnight - April 2, 2013 at 12:59 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by catfish - April 2, 2013 at 1:06 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by catfish - April 2, 2013 at 1:19 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by catfish - April 2, 2013 at 1:34 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Cato - April 2, 2013 at 1:54 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Rayaan - April 2, 2013 at 2:03 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Shell B - April 2, 2013 at 1:55 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by fr0d0 - April 2, 2013 at 2:35 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Aractus - April 2, 2013 at 6:00 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by CapnAwesome - April 2, 2013 at 7:55 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Darth - April 2, 2013 at 6:12 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Darth - April 2, 2013 at 7:35 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Aractus - April 2, 2013 at 7:54 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by festive1 - April 2, 2013 at 8:29 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Brayton.l - April 5, 2013 at 8:37 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Aractus - April 3, 2013 at 8:27 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by festive1 - April 3, 2013 at 8:31 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Mystical - April 5, 2013 at 11:56 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Brayton.l - April 6, 2013 at 12:09 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by fr0d0 - April 6, 2013 at 2:29 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by KichigaiNeko - April 6, 2013 at 10:45 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by fr0d0 - April 6, 2013 at 5:24 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by fr0d0 - April 7, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by A Theist - April 7, 2013 at 5:29 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by KichigaiNeko - April 8, 2013 at 12:05 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Shell B - April 6, 2013 at 7:03 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by fr0d0 - April 7, 2013 at 5:44 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by catfish - April 7, 2013 at 8:43 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Tonus - April 7, 2013 at 9:40 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by jstrodel - April 6, 2013 at 9:28 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Brayton.l - April 6, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by jstrodel - April 6, 2013 at 9:37 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by jstrodel - April 6, 2013 at 9:40 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Tiberius - April 6, 2013 at 9:43 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by jstrodel - April 6, 2013 at 9:49 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by jstrodel - April 6, 2013 at 10:04 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Tonus - April 6, 2013 at 10:20 pm
Re: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by frz - April 6, 2013 at 10:20 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by Mystical - April 7, 2013 at 10:01 pm
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by A Theist - April 8, 2013 at 9:51 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by fr0d0 - April 8, 2013 at 2:37 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by fr0d0 - April 8, 2013 at 6:32 am
RE: Nobody believes abortion is murder - by fr0d0 - April 8, 2013 at 10:50 am

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