RE: Show me your proof
April 14, 2013 at 12:38 am
(This post was last modified: April 14, 2013 at 12:39 am by Mystical.)
Aw did we scare off Mr Dew?
*sad face
Well, the Bible actually.
Psalms 139:1-6
O Lord, you have searched me and known me!
You know when I sit down and when I rise up;
you discern my thoughts from afar.
You search out my path and my lying down
and are acquainted with all my ways.
Even before a word is on my tongue,
behold, O Lord, you know it altogether.
You hem me in, behind and before,
and lay your hand upon me.
Such knowledge is too wonderful for me;
it is high; I cannot attain it.
God does not commit injustice. Therefore he is all just.
Deuteronomy 32:4 The Rock, his work is perfect, for all his ways are justice. A God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and upright is he.
Not only is god perfect, but the word of God proves true (even though it doesn't)
Psalm 18:30 This God—his way is perfect; the word of the Lord proves true; he is a shield for all those who take refuge in him.
All of us fall short of Gods' honor.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God
Self explanatory
Matthew 5:48 You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
God knows all possible routes one can take, and asserts that he knows which path is right.
Psalms 1:6 - For the LORD knows the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
God's knowledge, interpretation, and perception are beyond measure. His power is beyond plentiful supply.
Psalm 147:5 Great is our Lord, and abundant in power; his understanding is beyond measure.
God knows the status of our internal motivations
1 Sam. 16:7 But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.”
God can do all things, God's knowledge is perfect.
Job 42:2 “I know that you can do all things, and that no purpose of yours can be thwarted.
Job 37:16 "Do you know the balancing[s] of the clouds, the wondrous works of him who is perfect in knowledge
God knows everything we can think.
1 Chronicles 28:9 “And you, Solomon my son, know the God of your father and serve him with a whole heart and with a willing mind, for the Lord searches all hearts and understands every plan and thought. If you seek him, he will be found by you, but if you forsake him, he will cast you off forever.
The word of God is alive. Apparently there's a difference between a soul and spirit. And we're all naked in his eyes.
Heb. 4:12-13 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart. 13 And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account.
God knows the past, present, and future.
Isa. 41:21-24
Set forth your case, says the Lord;
bring your proofs, says the King of Jacob.
Let them bring them, and tell us what is to happen.
Tell us the former things, what they are,
that we may consider them,
that we may know their outcome;
or declare to us the things to come.
Tell us what is to come hereafter,
that we may know that you are gods;
do good, or do harm,
that we may be dismayed and terrified.[a]
Behold, you are nothing,
and your work is less than nothing;
an abomination is he who chooses you.
Isa. 42:9
Behold, the former things have come to pass,
and new things I now declare;
before they spring forth
I tell you of them.”
Isa. 44:7
Who is like me? Let him proclaim it.[a]
Let him declare and set it before me,
since I appointed an ancient people.
Let them declare what is to come, and what will happen.
God even knows what people would have done if their circumstances had been different.
Matt. 11:21 “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
*sad face
radorth Wrote:Who decides what qualifies as "omnipotent" or "all knowing"? You? If so, why you?
Well, the Bible actually.
Psalms 139:1-6
O Lord, you have searched me and known me!
You know when I sit down and when I rise up;
you discern my thoughts from afar.
You search out my path and my lying down
and are acquainted with all my ways.
Even before a word is on my tongue,
behold, O Lord, you know it altogether.
You hem me in, behind and before,
and lay your hand upon me.
Such knowledge is too wonderful for me;
it is high; I cannot attain it.
God does not commit injustice. Therefore he is all just.
Deuteronomy 32:4 The Rock, his work is perfect, for all his ways are justice. A God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and upright is he.
Not only is god perfect, but the word of God proves true (even though it doesn't)
Psalm 18:30 This God—his way is perfect; the word of the Lord proves true; he is a shield for all those who take refuge in him.
All of us fall short of Gods' honor.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God
Self explanatory
Matthew 5:48 You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
God knows all possible routes one can take, and asserts that he knows which path is right.
Psalms 1:6 - For the LORD knows the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
God's knowledge, interpretation, and perception are beyond measure. His power is beyond plentiful supply.
Psalm 147:5 Great is our Lord, and abundant in power; his understanding is beyond measure.
God knows the status of our internal motivations
1 Sam. 16:7 But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.”
God can do all things, God's knowledge is perfect.
Job 42:2 “I know that you can do all things, and that no purpose of yours can be thwarted.
Job 37:16 "Do you know the balancing[s] of the clouds, the wondrous works of him who is perfect in knowledge
God knows everything we can think.
1 Chronicles 28:9 “And you, Solomon my son, know the God of your father and serve him with a whole heart and with a willing mind, for the Lord searches all hearts and understands every plan and thought. If you seek him, he will be found by you, but if you forsake him, he will cast you off forever.
The word of God is alive. Apparently there's a difference between a soul and spirit. And we're all naked in his eyes.
Heb. 4:12-13 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart. 13 And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account.
God knows the past, present, and future.
Isa. 41:21-24
Set forth your case, says the Lord;
bring your proofs, says the King of Jacob.
Let them bring them, and tell us what is to happen.
Tell us the former things, what they are,
that we may consider them,
that we may know their outcome;
or declare to us the things to come.
Tell us what is to come hereafter,
that we may know that you are gods;
do good, or do harm,
that we may be dismayed and terrified.[a]
Behold, you are nothing,
and your work is less than nothing;
an abomination is he who chooses you.
Isa. 42:9
Behold, the former things have come to pass,
and new things I now declare;
before they spring forth
I tell you of them.”
Isa. 44:7
Who is like me? Let him proclaim it.[a]
Let him declare and set it before me,
since I appointed an ancient people.
Let them declare what is to come, and what will happen.
God even knows what people would have done if their circumstances had been different.
Matt. 11:21 “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
