(April 14, 2013 at 12:35 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Then why call him "god" John?Creator of the universe, more powerful than any other being, etc.
Quote:It falls incredibly short of a being who is perfect if it lacks the intrinsic properties to a) have perfect morals through his omnibenevolenceOmnibenevolence /= perfect morals. It would be immoral to give a convicted serial killer a cookie and a pat on the head and send him on his way, but it would be benevolent. Sending him to jail would not be benevolent, but it would be moral.
Quote:and b) be able to produce a perfect creation if it's not omnipotent.The creator gets to decide if it's perfect or not, as it's intended to suit his purposes.
Quote:You should have conceded all of this at the beginning in order to refute the argument.This wasn't in the argument at the beginning.
Quote:I can only assume I've chipped away at the "god complex" you believe in if you only now just admit God isn't a god but a less perfect creature with signs of mischevious intentions.You haven't shown that the biblical god isn't perfect, that a being must be perfect to be a god, that the Biblical god has mischeivous intentions, or that a god can't have mischievous intentions. You're just spewing shit at this point.
Quote:It really makes me wonder what drives people to worship such a monster who, on its own, made it known to us that it isn't the definition of perfection.False dichotomy. Even if you show that God isn't perfect, that doesn't equate to being a monster.