Islam or Atheism

[paulpablo]

Translations of the Qu'ran prior to the discovery of the universe's expansion had quite different wording. Until the discovery, the verses were interpreted differently. Even if the Qu'ran was trying to convey that the universe was expanding, it failed in that as Muslims had nothing to say about an expanding universe until Western science discovered that was the case. A prediction that only makes sense in retrospect wasn't really a prediction at all.

Of course and this is the miracle in it
The exact translate of the verses will say
We created the heaven with power and we are expanding/widing it
At that time no one knew or understood about that, they will pick any close meaning and interpret Quran accordingly
It is only when science discovers it, we will know that Quran talked about it, that is why it will continue in the future as well

A similar example is this verses
2. The Romans have been defeated.

3. In the nearest land (Syria, Iraq, Jordan, and Palestine), and they, after their defeat, will be victorious.

4. Within three to nine years. The decision of the matter, before and after (these events) is only with Allâh, (before the defeat of the Romans by the Persians, and after the defeat of the Persians by the Romans). And on that Day, the believers (i.e. Muslims) will rejoice (at the victory given by Allâh to the Romans against the Persians) -

It has two miracles, first predicting the future (at that time) by telling that the Romans/bezentians will defeat the Persians
The second one, is telling that the battle field is the undermost land
The exact translation is "The Undermost Land" for a person at that time, this doesn't mean anything so they translated by "Nearby land"
Just recently science discovered that the battlefield is the absolute lowest point on earth (dry land)

Can you explain this?

I already told you that the verse doesn't say the universe is expanding and gave you several examples, do you have problems with your eye sight?

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I can't keep on explaining false miracle after false miracle it's a total waste of time because you will just keep typing more.

Firstly can you see how this verse IS NOT a miracle?

Sahih International
And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander.
Muhsin Khan
With power did We construct the heaven. Verily, We are Able to extend the vastness of space thereof.
Pickthall
We have built the heaven with might, and We it is Who make the vast extent (thereof).
Yusuf Ali
With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who create the vastness of pace.
Shakir
And the heaven, We raised it high with power, and most surely We are the makers of things ample.
Dr. Ghali
And the heaven (is also a sign). We have built it with (Our) Hands (i.e., Capability) and surely We are indeed extending (it) wide.

Even the people who translated this did not use the word universe, or skies, they used the words heavens, do you believe the universe is heaven then?

Not even all the translations use the word expanding,

Just to make my possition clear on this I cannot not and will not take your claims seriously from this point onwards if you cannot admit that this is not a miracle.