RE: God & Objective Morals
April 17, 2013 at 8:33 pm
(This post was last modified: April 17, 2013 at 8:34 pm by FallentoReason.)
(April 17, 2013 at 2:47 pm)Tex Wrote: First, I'm just nit picky, but a priori means able to reason, yes, but it specifically is talking about ontological reasoning. You don't need any sense organs to experience anything, just the ability to have rational thoughts. On contrast, a posteriori is the ability to reason if there is experience. However, you're still correct in word choice through the dialogue. And sorry for the critique!
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I thought "a priori" meant that we could literally sit on a couch and come to the conclusion that something must be true? Seems to me we can do that with morality and moral problems.
Quote:More importantly, I think the argument is fine until this:
"then that means there is something apart from God that made it necessary for God to be the way he is."
The thing that makes him reflect the morals is also part of his nature. Part of being moral isn't just what you think, but it is about what you do about it.
I'll try and explain myself some more: could it have been possible for a world to exist where burning puppies is the morally right thing to do? If yes, then apparently morality is arbitrary because although we can say that's horrible, our feelings toward that action mean nothing whatsoever. It also means God's nature is arbitrary. If you say no, it was necessary for God to be the way he is, then that begs the question.
I used the example of my car. The engine is necessary to the car *only* when I want to drive. It's not necessary if I want to jump up and down on my car. It's not necessary when I want to vacuum my car. Therefore, it means that for something to be *necessary*, there must be an external condition. Well, then, if God's nature is necessarily the way it is, then what's the *external* thing controlling this necessity?
I'll leave it there and wait for your response.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle