Are you for or against the separation of church and state?

[Esquilax]

Secular societies that were bad = societies that were bad because they were secular
if
Religious societies that are bad = religious societies that were bad because they were religious

It's much more complicated than simple equations like that, is my point. Multiple issues working in concert, rather than "oh, this state is secular, it's no wonder they failed without good christian morals," or "oh, this state is christian, no wonder they failed, belonging as they do to an ancient death cult that brooks no opposition."

That has been my position from the very beginning.