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Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian
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RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian
Welcome aboard, Love. You have no idea how long it's been since I last said something like that.

Thanks for sharing your interesting conversion story; I prophesy many fruitful discussions to come using that material alone.

A couple of points I'd like to pick up on for now, if I may. You mention an evil presence which took away your sense of morality etc. Could you expand on this, was it something you felt inside yourself, something you were becoming, or some kind of external perception?

You go on to say that "love, charity, morality and goodness are inexplicable by human reason and material reductionism". I'm a little confused here - are you trying to say that human feelings and emotions cannot be explained in human terms? I'm sure a case can be made to account for each of those things in purely evolutionary ways, both biologically and especially societal.

As for McGrath and Lennox being "much brighter" than Prof Dawkins (please, he earned that honorific and it's only common courtesy to use it): all I can say in answer to this is that it would make no difference who is the brighter. What matters, in fact the only thing that does matter, is the work, not the individual.

So, with all that said, I hope you enjoy your stay.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - April 19, 2013 at 8:38 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Aractus - April 19, 2013 at 8:48 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Tonus - April 19, 2013 at 8:51 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Aractus - April 19, 2013 at 8:58 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Cyberman - April 19, 2013 at 9:03 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - April 19, 2013 at 9:47 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by RosaRubicondior - April 19, 2013 at 9:09 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Aractus - April 19, 2013 at 9:24 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - April 19, 2013 at 9:09 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by downbeatplumb - April 19, 2013 at 11:12 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by The Grand Nudger - April 19, 2013 at 9:19 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Ben Davis - April 19, 2013 at 9:33 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by pocaracas - April 19, 2013 at 9:36 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Kayenneh - April 19, 2013 at 9:42 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by The Grand Nudger - April 19, 2013 at 9:43 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by thesummerqueen - April 19, 2013 at 9:43 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by The Grand Nudger - April 19, 2013 at 9:59 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by thesummerqueen - April 19, 2013 at 10:01 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - April 19, 2013 at 10:28 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Cyberman - April 19, 2013 at 10:02 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by tokutter - April 19, 2013 at 10:14 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - April 19, 2013 at 10:19 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by thesummerqueen - April 19, 2013 at 10:20 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Psykhronic - April 19, 2013 at 10:21 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - April 19, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by downbeatplumb - April 19, 2013 at 12:46 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Whateverist - April 19, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by downbeatplumb - April 19, 2013 at 2:13 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - April 19, 2013 at 2:20 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Baalzebutt - April 19, 2013 at 12:46 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by thesummerqueen - April 19, 2013 at 10:30 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - April 19, 2013 at 11:14 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Tonus - April 19, 2013 at 11:20 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by pocaracas - April 19, 2013 at 11:39 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Whateverist - April 19, 2013 at 10:42 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Lord Privy Seal - April 19, 2013 at 10:44 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Tonus - April 19, 2013 at 11:11 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by JesusHChrist - April 19, 2013 at 11:12 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - April 19, 2013 at 11:35 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by downbeatplumb - April 19, 2013 at 11:46 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by LastPoet - April 19, 2013 at 12:29 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - April 19, 2013 at 12:47 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by The Grand Nudger - April 19, 2013 at 11:17 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by thesummerqueen - April 19, 2013 at 11:20 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by downbeatplumb - April 19, 2013 at 11:24 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by LastPoet - April 19, 2013 at 11:28 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by JesusHChrist - April 19, 2013 at 11:37 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by thesummerqueen - April 19, 2013 at 11:37 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by thesummerqueen - April 19, 2013 at 11:45 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Cato - April 19, 2013 at 11:52 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by pocaracas - April 19, 2013 at 11:55 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by JesusHChrist - April 19, 2013 at 11:59 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Minimalist - April 19, 2013 at 12:02 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Kayenneh - April 19, 2013 at 12:18 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by downbeatplumb - April 19, 2013 at 12:25 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Whateverist - April 19, 2013 at 1:42 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by thesummerqueen - April 19, 2013 at 12:26 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by LastPoet - April 19, 2013 at 12:36 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Cinjin - April 19, 2013 at 12:43 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Aractus - April 22, 2013 at 2:09 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by The Grand Nudger - April 19, 2013 at 12:57 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - April 19, 2013 at 1:01 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Cyberman - April 21, 2013 at 7:47 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by festive1 - April 19, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Edwardo Piet - April 19, 2013 at 2:25 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - April 19, 2013 at 2:48 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Angrboda - April 19, 2013 at 4:35 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Ryantology - April 19, 2013 at 7:13 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by KichigaiNeko - April 20, 2013 at 12:59 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Fruity - April 20, 2013 at 1:58 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by fr0d0 - April 21, 2013 at 3:16 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by thesummerqueen - April 21, 2013 at 6:01 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by fr0d0 - April 21, 2013 at 8:55 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Minimalist - April 29, 2013 at 5:47 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Cyberman - April 29, 2013 at 6:04 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Minimalist - April 29, 2013 at 7:37 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Cyberman - April 30, 2013 at 1:19 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by smax - May 1, 2013 at 4:15 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Ucaslog1 - May 4, 2013 at 4:00 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - May 4, 2013 at 5:51 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Whateverist - May 4, 2013 at 8:33 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Ryantology - May 4, 2013 at 4:26 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Angrboda - May 4, 2013 at 9:14 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - May 4, 2013 at 10:08 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Simon Moon - May 4, 2013 at 10:52 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - May 4, 2013 at 10:59 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Whateverist - May 4, 2013 at 11:12 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - May 4, 2013 at 2:09 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Cyberman - May 4, 2013 at 10:17 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - May 4, 2013 at 10:49 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Cyberman - May 4, 2013 at 11:02 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - May 4, 2013 at 11:04 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Simon Moon - May 4, 2013 at 12:01 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Minimalist - May 4, 2013 at 10:49 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Angrboda - May 4, 2013 at 2:48 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Ucaslog1 - May 5, 2013 at 2:34 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - May 7, 2013 at 3:15 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Cyberman - May 7, 2013 at 6:59 pm
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - May 8, 2013 at 6:34 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Cyberman - May 9, 2013 at 6:26 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - May 10, 2013 at 9:26 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Cyberman - May 11, 2013 at 11:27 am
RE: Ex-"New Atheist", Now Christian - by Love - May 13, 2013 at 2:30 pm

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