(April 24, 2013 at 11:41 am)smax Wrote: God creates Adam and Eve, who are babies in the greatest sense of the word. They know nothing of logic or reason, and must be taught everything.
Adam and Eve are humans, therefore they possess both logic and reason. God gave Adam lordship over all the plants and animals-- you think God would have given that power to a baby? On top of that, God explicitly told Adam and Eve not to eat of the tree. They knew right from wrong. How could eating the fruit be perceived as anything but blatant disobedience?
(April 24, 2013 at 11:47 am)Esquilax Wrote:(April 24, 2013 at 8:55 am)Godschild Wrote: @ Esquilax, how do you define sin, it seems you are trying to make it a physical thing, like trees or rocks or what ever.
I don't define sin. I don't care to, and I don't really have to either, since I was under the impression that most theists also attribute the majority of their better instincts and emotional states to god too, not to mention abstract concepts like morality and love. Plus all that divine plan stuff, and the "god's truth written on every heart," argument I occasionally hear... it seems like god just creates everything regardless of its physicality of conceptual nature. So while I doubt sin is some physical entity to most theists, god seems sort of in the bag for non-physical things too.
So it doesn't matter what sin is, just where it came from.
If God creates heat, does He have to create cold too?
