Show me your proof

[Tex]

Finally, some reason! You're correct, no proof I've submitted or anyone has submitted (that I've seen) on this site proves their own specific God. I can get close to the Christian God with logic (I've yet to post any such thing), but it is impossible to get everything that incorporates the Christian God. The thing I'm nearly certain that can never be proven is the Christian concept of Grace. Grace is "the unmerited favor of God". Because it is unmerited, there isn't really a cause-effect relationship. I doubt that "God sent a Messiah to redeem us" will ever be proven logically.

The reason I fall towards Christianity is because it is closest to what I can prove (the next closest is Taoism, fyi). Also, the teachings I cannot prove do not contradict each other and mesh quite nicely with what can be proven. Truly, I have no complaints with Christianity (the only complaint I have with Taoism is the lack of an efficient cause).

I think the problem, here, is that your initial logic is somewhat faulty. It's very easy to reason yourself into a wrong conclusion, especially if you start with an incorrect premise, and "existence is present, therefore it must have a creator" has a terrible latter half. The first part of that statement is absolutely true (unless you're a solipsist, but seriously, fuck solipsists) but it quickly becomes a non sequitur. There may or may not be a creator, but that fact does not follow simply from the idea that there is something that might have been created.

Now, in any other circumstance I would use this as a grave insult to your intelligence, so forgive me, but this feels like Ray Comfort logic to me: "creation needs a creator." Simply doesn't follow. Now, you've clearly got a host of secondary and tertiary reasons for believing as you do, but since they've come out of an initial premise that the existence we see must have a creator, they're necessarily biased toward a possibly incorrect answer.

I dunno, maybe your additional reasons are actually super convincing. You would be the first theist I've talked to that has that. Mostly it's all just riddled with pressuppositions and confirmation bias, but it's up to you if you feel like unpacking that.

I actually agree with everything written. I generally think those teleological arguments are bunk. "It looks organized, therefore it was organized by the Organizer" really holds no water. The whole argument is based on a mental category. The only one I find even slightly appealing is that statistics one I submitted, but I only submitted it because I'm not sure it's valid.

However, the argument that concerns existence is uncaused causer. I'm not saying that "existence" has a creator, but that "existence" itself is the causer of the "stuff" existing. This is the extent of the argument. It makes the "stuff existing" intentional (willed), allowing us to say that Existence per se is an individual, but doesn't give any meaning farther than that. Technically, I can't even define this as God because there is no necessity of respect, reverence, obedience, or anything that gives the title of "God" any meaning. I think you can get there, but that isn't the purpose of the proof.