Who created god?

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Instead, you went for the general theists who pride themselves of the use of logic in creation... and try to get them to question the creator of their god... and get the standard reply that you got from godschild, in two lines.

Like I said, I'm new. But I've been around here long enough to know that your statement is contradiction within itself. I highlighted for clarification.

Your question has been done to death, it even has a page on iron chariots:
http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?t...used_cause
http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?t...oved_mover

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I could be wrong, but I get the feeling that you think Theists are making a compelling argument . If so, that explains why you and I already seem to be odds.

I have yet to see a single compelling argument that points to the existence of a non-contingent being.

In fact, I firmly believe the terminology itself was invented as a sort of bogus support for the existence of god.