RE: Atheism Undermines Knowledge
May 4, 2013 at 12:38 pm
(This post was last modified: May 6, 2013 at 10:15 am by DeistPaladin.)
(May 3, 2013 at 1:51 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: 1) the physical universe is causally closed, i.e. devoid of any influence apart from the deterministic chain of cause and effect
2) dependant on nothing outside itself its continuity or regularity. The modern atheist removes from consideration teleology, final causes and intentionality. In practice, atheism presupposes that everything we know can be described in terms of ‘material’ interactions by means of efficient causes. This excludes any type of formal or final causes that would lead one to posit divine influence. However, this cannot be the case
An infinite series of ever smaller intermediate causes and effects separates each cause from its corresponding effect.* In order to avoid this paradox, there must be a smallest possible finite unit. You can stack small finite units (of time, space, etc.) to fill a finite gap. In quantum physics, you have a smallest possible unit of time, Plank time or tP. Yet no efficient cause links one tP to the next. They just happen to be ‘next’ to one another. Either relationship between one tP and another is random OR a transcendent order links one tP to all others.
If random, the physical universe would have no logical continuity. In such a universe, no knowledge would be justified. Since the modern atheist denies any transcendentally imposed order he must accept that the universe has no logical continuity on which the base his knowledge. Therefore, the atheist cannot also believe in the valid acquisition of knowledge without contradiction.
* (as per David Hume)
So we should stop doing science because god did it and that helps expand our understanding of the universe how?
The moment there is some evidence that lends any credence at all to the crap ideas you are spouting then science will evaluate it. However there is no need to bring your childish beliefs to the table science, is perfectly up to the job and will eventually answer all the question you have posted here.
We may not have the answers now but I would not expect to.
If we hadn't been hampered for centuries with the superstitious religions that held sway maybe we'd be in a better position to say "this is what happened".
Please don't wish for the return of the bad old days of theistic domination.
***DeistPaladin edited to fix quote box***
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