(May 1, 2013 at 5:53 pm)smax Wrote: you must also conclude that god's existence is evidence of his creator.
No we don't need to conclude that.
God is the source, the "first mover". God has no creator - God 'just exists'. The same way that truth 'just exists'. (indeed, truth is an aspect of God).
Now, If you dont accept that God just exists, then you are essentially saying that we "just exist" - which is the exact same position (applied to a different subject) and which requires the exact same leap of faith.
And it would obviously be the height of ridiculousness to suggest that flawed, ignorant, weak, mortal men can "just exist" but "God" (and everything that noun implies) cannot.
God exists, my good fellow - like so many on here, you are just going to have to deal with it.
(Saint) Thomas Aquinas dealt with this topic quite magnificently, back in the 11th century. All logic and reason point to God, (Like truth, these are aspects of God), there is no escape.
