(May 4, 2013 at 1:00 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: ...The denial of god starts an endless cascade of further denials. Without the concept of god, all reason collapses.
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As others have tried to explain:
doubt =/= denial.
Now on to the larger philosophical issue you bring up, this is the same bare assertion I've seen so often before in the Moral Argument, the Transcendental Argument and the Presuppositional Argument. Typically, the argument is "without God, there would be no..." and then follow with "objective morals" or "laws of logic" or "any way to know anything".
Beyond the fact that these are just a bare assertions (see Bare Assertion Fallacy) they also represent a fundamental misunderstanding of what morality/logic/knowledge is. Based on the nature of these bare assertions and the arguments that typically ensue (yours included), the apologist seems to assume that these things are magical forces in the universe and therefore must have been put in place by (and maintained by) a mysterious magical being.
...gotta take care of some real life issues; I'll continue this post as soon as I can...
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
