(May 6, 2013 at 2:34 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Current scientific methods absolutely do exclude certain parts of reality: formal cause, intentionality, and qualia for a start. And that is okay, except science is not the only field of human inquiry take for example linguistics and semiotics. Personally, I think the Cartesean divide has outlived its purpose. It is now being used to keep these two realms apart. The worship of Science, with a capital 'S', actually thwarts progress in bridging that divide.
Well, until it can be shown that a divide even exists(i.e. the mind cannot be solely dependent on the physical brain), science will dismiss it, and rightfully so.
(May 6, 2013 at 2:34 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Have all the fun you want ridiculing my position as the search for elves and fairies. It doesn't matter, because what I'm making a serious inquiry into the nature and operation of qualitative values.
I apologize if you felt I was ridiculing you, as I can assure you that was not my intention. I was trying to think of a proper analogy when the story of the shoemaker and the elves popped into my head, so I ran with it. No intent to ridicule.
The point of the analogy was to highlight the thought process you appear to be using and to demonstrate that dismissing supernatural elements such as the soul is not due to some inherent bias, as you seem to keep implying.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell