RE: A club exists at my school for the purpose of evangelizing students
May 6, 2013 at 4:03 pm
(This post was last modified: May 6, 2013 at 5:00 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(May 3, 2013 at 11:40 pm)cratehorus Wrote: bible clubs are a violaion of church and state in the sense that they are using public resources.... that are required by federal law.... for religous purposes.... there might not be laws like this in other countries.... but here in america.... people are not allowed to use taxpayer funds on religous services..... which is what your school is doing, if this was a science club that would be educational, but teaching witchcraft (or evangelistic christianity or whatever those whackjobs are calling it) is a waste of taxpayer money and is unconstitutional, because federal law requires public education it is a direct violation of the first amendment,
good luck with your lawsuit
I would advise against it.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92875&page=1
It's settled law. It would have been better for everyone if schools weren't a religous battleground, but at this point the only effective opposition is for atheists and minority religions to start their own clubs.
(May 4, 2013 at 7:55 am)whateverist Wrote:(May 4, 2013 at 6:32 am)Godschild Wrote: Besides what's the big deal, they are doing what they believe in and what they believe will be good for others. No different than you wanting to teach others they are wrong, equal ground for differing views.
Except that there isn't anyone on the other side. I know of no out reach clubs for atheists. No one proselytizes for the non-supernatural in this way. Whether or not it is legal, it is definitely slimy.
There are atheist clubs, usually at the HS level, mostly aimed at actually providing a club for atheist students. However, most American atheists agree that 'going after' young children is inappropriate, it's unlikely we'll use the same tactics to counteract the Good News Club type of organizations at the grade school level. It just isn't right to do an end-run around parents like that.
(May 5, 2013 at 6:41 pm)Godschild Wrote: Atheism has no belief so how can you have a club, how can you base a club on non belief, to have a club you need to have something to stand on besides believing in nothingness.
A club couldn't be based on mere atheism (or theism). It can, however, be a place where atheist students can enjoy each others company without people like you sneering at them and lying about them, which you just did when you said atheists believe in nothingness. We don't believe in God. I don't believe true nothingness ever has or can exist.
(May 5, 2013 at 6:41 pm)Godschild Wrote: You do not know he's telling the truth about student being pressure, you're repeating unsubstantiated statement. You are pulling a double standard you accuse Christians of doing, so either stop or quite complaining.
I know about Good News and similar clubs operating in grade schools when kids are way too impressionable for it to be fair to recruit them like that. In Middle School it's not so bad, and in HS I have no beef, but 6-10 year olds? Really?
(May 5, 2013 at 6:41 pm)Godschild Wrote: Atheist have no belief so they have no purpose and they want last as a school club.
Not having one particular belief is not the same thing as having no belief. Atheists can have lots of beliefs and lots of purposes...and atheist clubs are springing up in High Schools across the country and some of them have been around for years. But I've read enough of your posts not to expect honesty. You've been around here long enough to know what you're saying is false.
The funny thing is that even if you're right about your own religion, you won't make the cut for heaven. The Bible is clear on how we will know a disciple of Christ and you are the opposite of it.
