RE: Atheism Undermines Knowledge
May 8, 2013 at 12:50 pm
(This post was last modified: May 8, 2013 at 1:15 pm by Neo-Scholastic.)
(May 8, 2013 at 11:10 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: … I can never seem to get a "ok, good point" when I'm right and they can't counter it, or even a refutation when I could be wrong... I get a red herring, I get a discussion-jump, or I just get ignored. Every time. I expected better of you, Chad.Don’t be disappointed just because I didn’t high-5 you or address each and every point of yours. Many of my concerns have been ignored as well. This has been mostly a one-man show since I’m the only one (other than fr0d0) to shoulder the burden. That’s okay. I just wish I had more time. In some cases, though, I feel I already have addressed some points in previous replies. It doesn’t make sense to me to repeat myself with each new person presenting the same objection. Or it seems that my meaning is not getting across no matter how careful my wording. Moreover, I’m not the only one presenting red-herrings. Any average person on the street understands that the subjective experience of listening to music cannot be reduced to physical facts.
(May 8, 2013 at 11:10 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: But ok, let's explain why the scientific method works using the scientific method.And how is this any different than using the bible to prove the bible is true?
(May 8, 2013 at 11:10 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: ...The scientific method entails using observation and empirical evidence to explain how something works.So your answer is "using observation and empirical evidence". Those are the presuppositions I am asking you to question, both in the OP and in my subsequent responses. We both know that the scientific method works. But that’s as far as you, or anyone else apparently, will go. You are correct that our ability to communicate on AF is a product of the scientific enterprise. At the same time you cannot ignore that the substance of our communication is the conveyance of meaning by means of signification and expressions of purpose and intent. Take away those and there is no science to be had.
As for myself, I have made an existential choice to believe that inductive reasoning, the very basis of the scientific method, works for a reason. The other option is to maintain that it works for no reason at all. And if it works for no reason at all, then it could just as easily stop working.