(May 8, 2013 at 8:36 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Too many people seem to think that science is our only source of knowledge about the world. If that were the case it would be acceptable to take these presuppositions as properly basic. Fortunately the world is much richer than scientific knowledge. No scientific and mathematical analysis of Bach's music could capture its magic. The awe and beauty of Bach's music is nothing if not supernatural. So if you want to see the magic, that's it.
Perhaps you were using supernatural in the colloquial sense of "otherworldly". If so I agree. But if you seriously want to claim anything as being supernatural I would have to question your evidence for dismissing anything of which we can become aware as not natural. I think we are at an impasse where neither of us can either show that we are right or that the other is wrong. For me, the "supernatural" will always be an empty set. Whatever is is natural .. unless you have in the mind the natural vs man-made distinction, which I am not addressing.