Definition of and evidence for the holocaust

[A_Nony_Mouse]

Ummm, I think we should just get a list of "acceptable" sources before we continue. Predicatable Bob is well, predictable...

Bob? What sources would you accept ?

As the charge is mass murder I find the standards being the same as those in a simple murder trial to be acceptable. Acceptable sources would be those acceptable in such a trial. But of course the same rules would apply. Beyond a reasonable doubt for one. And then first the physical evidence a crime has been committed and then only sworn testimony to the physical evidence. Most of it everyone who watches TV has seen enough of it to speak the lines before the actors. Mass murder being a greater crime than a single murder there is no excuse for lesser standards.

If this really bothers anyone the Nuremberg trial transcripts are online to start with. If it were a US trial it would have been overturned on appeal as not being justice at all but it is a place to start.

What is not acceptable is anonymous words or people who spoke without oath and penalty of perjury, third party books talking about what anonymous sources said. Also not camp rumors, not hearsay, not communist war propaganda, not sources lying in part, not sources under duress, things unacceptable in a US court.

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PRESENT and defend whatever you wish. You are doing nothing different from the theist saying READ THE BIBLE when asked for evidence of their god. The same rules apply to all.

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You would think with all those mountains of evidence they could find at least one thing.

First of all, some people have actually read the bible. You can't deconstruct arguments without knowing what they are. If I were to present every piece of evidence for the holocaust here, I would write a book.

So you imply I said EVERY and then beg off being unable to present everything. Pick the best evidence that convince you back when you were a skeptic. One or two of the best. Just start there instead of trying to excuse yourself from defending anything.

It is a well established historical fact that the holocaust happened.

That is what believers say about Jesus and the resurrection. You play by the same rules demanded of Christians.

This is not the same as theism at all in that people don't agree on much in theism other than that there is a god (between religions). There is physical evidence, unless you are suggesting that all of the survivors rescued from camps all decide to make up the same story (for whatever reason) and plant tons of corpses in the area just to make it look more believable.

You continue to claim there is physical evidence but you do not have the slightest idea what it is. Were you never skeptical? Did you never demand evidence? Did you ever read an autopsy establishing cause of death? Are you unaware of the most elementary requirements?

[BTW: If the murdered were cremated, where did all the corpses come from?]

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsou...nial1.html

It appears you are going to continue to refuse to present any evidence whatsoever. There is no point in you posting anything more.