What a disgusting thread.
My evidence for the Holocaust depends on the thousands of photos and documentary films that exist and the thousands of eye witnesses which include the victims, the perpetrators and the liberators, some of whom are still living to tell the tale. I've known several camp survivors and WWII veterans (including my father and uncle) who served in Europe and confirmed the atrocities, but I've never talked to any that say it didn't happen. You discount out of hand any evidence you don't happen to like, so there's no real point in arguing it, except to say this: placing the Holocaust on the same level as the existence of God or alien abduction is ridiculous. One is supernatural, the other is scientifically and statistically unlikely; in other words, they're both highly improbable. Unfortunately, heinous behavior on the behalf of vicious scumbags like the Nazis isn't improbable at all. Your analogy doesn't hold up.
It's like my saying Mount Everest doesn't exist because I've never personally seen it. But I've seen pictures and read accounts of it, and have personally seen other mountains, and logic dictates that one of them must be the tallest. You didn't witness the Holocaust, but logic dictates that like the tallest mountains, there are also pinnacles of human depravity.
And while you try to push buttons by saying believers in the Holocaust are akin to believers in God and that denial is more in keeping with atheism, you've got it precisely backward. There's plenty of evidence for the Holocaust, just as there's plenty of evidence for a Universe without design. Denying the facts because they don't happen to suit your prejudices is a theist trait.
With historical revisionism like this going on---within the lifespans of those who were actually there---it's hardly surprising that Bush 2 got away with saying that the invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with WMD only a few days after he said it did, or that a washed-up athlete can flee from the law on live television after virtually hacking off his ex-wife's head and be found Not Guilty of murder, or that politically-motivated cretins can deny physical phenomenon as fundamental as the Greenhouse Effect while the east coast is submerged in water and the west bursts into flame. This kind of thinking adds to the sum total of sorrow and pain in the world, and taken far enough, endangers lives.
My evidence for the Holocaust depends on the thousands of photos and documentary films that exist and the thousands of eye witnesses which include the victims, the perpetrators and the liberators, some of whom are still living to tell the tale. I've known several camp survivors and WWII veterans (including my father and uncle) who served in Europe and confirmed the atrocities, but I've never talked to any that say it didn't happen. You discount out of hand any evidence you don't happen to like, so there's no real point in arguing it, except to say this: placing the Holocaust on the same level as the existence of God or alien abduction is ridiculous. One is supernatural, the other is scientifically and statistically unlikely; in other words, they're both highly improbable. Unfortunately, heinous behavior on the behalf of vicious scumbags like the Nazis isn't improbable at all. Your analogy doesn't hold up.
It's like my saying Mount Everest doesn't exist because I've never personally seen it. But I've seen pictures and read accounts of it, and have personally seen other mountains, and logic dictates that one of them must be the tallest. You didn't witness the Holocaust, but logic dictates that like the tallest mountains, there are also pinnacles of human depravity.
And while you try to push buttons by saying believers in the Holocaust are akin to believers in God and that denial is more in keeping with atheism, you've got it precisely backward. There's plenty of evidence for the Holocaust, just as there's plenty of evidence for a Universe without design. Denying the facts because they don't happen to suit your prejudices is a theist trait.
With historical revisionism like this going on---within the lifespans of those who were actually there---it's hardly surprising that Bush 2 got away with saying that the invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with WMD only a few days after he said it did, or that a washed-up athlete can flee from the law on live television after virtually hacking off his ex-wife's head and be found Not Guilty of murder, or that politically-motivated cretins can deny physical phenomenon as fundamental as the Greenhouse Effect while the east coast is submerged in water and the west bursts into flame. This kind of thinking adds to the sum total of sorrow and pain in the world, and taken far enough, endangers lives.
