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The Argument From Consciousness
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RE: The Argument From Consciousness
(May 9, 2013 at 11:04 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Good point. I thought I sort of explained briefly why to my mind, it seems like consciousness necessarily requires time; consciousness is a series of events that when put side by side, give us an experience of reality. It's like a movie and all its frames. The movie wouldn't be a movie if it was stuck at frame 1. Likewise, we wouldn't be *conscious* if we were stuck at the first "instance". Only through time, do we get a flow of instances adding up to enable us to experience reality.

It's not that I'm arguing from ignorance, because if the above is true, then consciousness -- of any kind -- has to tick off time as one of the things it is influenced by, because it is necessary no matter what.

See my edited-to-add comment.

ETA: How do you know that you are not a movie that is stuck at frame 1? Not that I value the objection, but your counter-argument seems to fall prey to a variant of Last-Teusday-ism.

ETA: ETA: It's also worth noting that if you're attempting to prove a negative, as you are, you require more than simply something that is compelling and persuasive, you need airtight and irrefutable logic, and you don't have that. As an argument that the notion of god is implausible, fine, you may have that; as an argument that god is impossible, you'll need much more than this.


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The Argument From Consciousness - by FallentoReason - May 9, 2013 at 9:53 pm
RE: The Argument From Consciousness - by Darkstar - May 9, 2013 at 10:14 pm
RE: The Argument From Consciousness - by Darkstar - May 9, 2013 at 10:21 pm
RE: The Argument From Consciousness - by Darkstar - May 9, 2013 at 10:36 pm
RE: The Argument From Consciousness - by Angrboda - May 9, 2013 at 10:54 pm
RE: The Argument From Consciousness - by Angrboda - May 9, 2013 at 11:08 pm
RE: The Argument From Consciousness - by ebg - May 9, 2013 at 11:13 pm
RE: The Argument From Consciousness - by Darkstar - May 9, 2013 at 11:16 pm
RE: The Argument From Consciousness - by Silver - May 9, 2013 at 11:21 pm
RE: The Argument From Consciousness - by Angrboda - May 9, 2013 at 11:43 pm
RE: The Argument From Consciousness - by FallentoReason - May 10, 2013 at 12:12 am
RE: The Argument From Consciousness - by FallentoReason - May 11, 2013 at 11:03 am
RE: The Argument From Consciousness - by ebg - May 9, 2013 at 11:34 pm
RE: The Argument From Consciousness - by Silver - May 9, 2013 at 11:42 pm
RE: The Argument From Consciousness - by Whateverist - May 10, 2013 at 1:47 am
RE: The Argument From Consciousness - by Love - May 10, 2013 at 7:44 am

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