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A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God
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RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God
(May 11, 2013 at 3:46 pm)Godschild Wrote: I'm not stuck, I'm the one who brought up the omnipresence of God.

Esquilax Wrote:So, your theology concerns a god that allows the embodiment of evil to tempt his creations, and waits so that he can get pissy after. Awesome.

Yes, God allowed Satan to tempt Adam and Eve, that's the only way Satan could approach to them, God's in control. He did not get mad, He did discipline them, you're just to blind to realize what actually happened.

GC Wrote:You must be real dense, how many times have this been explained, ok let's try one more time. The tree was there so Adam and Eve could show their love for God through obedience, the same thing parents desire from their children.

Esquilax Wrote:And yet, strangely, you were the one who was too dense to spot that I accounted for that possibility in my original post, in the hopes that there was some alternative answer. Interestingly, you seem happy to accept the most petty, manipulative, hucksterish answer as the motivation of your all good creator being.

I was not looking for an alternative answer, I've probably studied those passages many more times than you have ever read them. So who's the huckster here, I believe it to be you, the one trying to fool everyone that you have studied scripture and knows what scripture says.

Esquilax Wrote:You really are a mindless cheerleader in the most fascinating way, GC.

Mindless, then I have no description for one who sets below mindless, sorry bud you have no description.

GC Wrote:Tell me what would make your parents happy, your money or (not and/or) your respect for them.

Esquilax Wrote:You seem to be missing that respect and obedience are different things; you just seem happy with Adam and Eve just doing whatever god wants. That's not respect, it's the illusion of respect. It's what you and your kind seem to want; actual belief doesn't matter, sincerity doesn't matter, all that matters is that you follow the crowd, observe the traditions, donate at church, keep cheerleading, don't ever stop, god is good, no thinking...

Man you sure are one mixed up individual, respect and obedience go hand in hand. Respect: relation to something specified, God specified obedience and they disobeyed, being neither respectful nor obedient, showing selfishness over their love for God. The only illusion we have here is that of your sanity. We follow Christ with respect, actual belief, sincerity and love. Giving tithes, using our God given minds, respect, obedience and ect. shows our love for Him, God actually needs no cheerleaders, yet He chooses to work through people, for those who love Him it's an honor.

Esquilax Wrote:But that's not truthful, and that's not respect. Respect is earned, and a god who would indulge in entrapment and then bully his children throughout creation, even the ones who had nothing to do with the initial "crime" isn't even worth pity, much less respect.

God doesn't need to earn our respect for Him, it's something that we should give because He is creator and savior. You pay for your own sins against God, not the ones committed by Adam and Eve. In the end death will reveal the truth, that you can be certain of.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by Darth - May 8, 2013 at 9:32 am
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by ThomM - May 19, 2013 at 11:54 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by Tonus - May 8, 2013 at 12:23 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by John V - May 8, 2013 at 12:47 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by Raven - May 8, 2013 at 5:45 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by Raven - May 9, 2013 at 2:30 am
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by smax - May 9, 2013 at 3:07 am
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by Raven - May 9, 2013 at 4:28 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by smax - May 9, 2013 at 4:51 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by Raven - May 9, 2013 at 5:36 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by smax - May 9, 2013 at 6:07 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by smax - May 9, 2013 at 10:02 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by smax - May 10, 2013 at 12:31 am
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by smax - May 10, 2013 at 5:37 am
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by smax - May 10, 2013 at 6:32 am
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by Raven - May 10, 2013 at 9:01 am
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by Godschild - May 12, 2013 at 4:00 am
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by smax - May 12, 2013 at 4:27 am
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by smax - May 12, 2013 at 1:16 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by smax - May 13, 2013 at 6:47 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by smax - May 11, 2013 at 11:55 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by ebg - May 8, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by Raven - May 8, 2013 at 7:20 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by ebg - May 8, 2013 at 7:40 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by ebg - May 8, 2013 at 8:04 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by ebg - May 8, 2013 at 8:24 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by Drich - May 8, 2013 at 8:36 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by ebg - May 8, 2013 at 8:57 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by ebg - May 9, 2013 at 9:04 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by Silver - May 12, 2013 at 1:44 am
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by Raven - May 11, 2013 at 6:08 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by Silver - May 12, 2013 at 4:06 am
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by smax - May 14, 2013 at 2:25 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by smax - May 15, 2013 at 10:19 am
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by smax - May 15, 2013 at 2:41 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by smax - May 16, 2013 at 9:38 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by smax - May 18, 2013 at 4:52 am
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by smax - May 18, 2013 at 10:38 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by smax - May 19, 2013 at 11:40 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by smax - May 18, 2013 at 9:30 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by Raven - May 20, 2013 at 10:40 pm
RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God - by smax - May 22, 2013 at 5:30 am

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