RE: I don't believe theists and reject their claims of theism.
May 14, 2013 at 12:13 am
(This post was last modified: May 14, 2013 at 12:35 am by Whateverist.)
(May 13, 2013 at 9:36 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(May 13, 2013 at 7:06 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: On what grounds is anyone able to assert claim of a God and then stamp it as rational?I for one am of the opinion that a rational understanding of the physical universe depends on presupposing forces and principles that operate parallel to, in tandem with, and above those of the physical universe. That was certainly one of the implications of Godel, Escher, Bach. My point is that reason itself depends on something over and above what can be known purely by empirical observations.
I don't disagree but I think we have it on board. It isn't based in reason but it does make reason possible. I also think it is 100% organic with no supernatural ingredients added.
(May 13, 2013 at 10:12 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: (And remind me that I have unrelated morality questions concerning dogs! Seriously, my dog has been making think!)
I'm hopeless for remembering. But it is a wise man indeed who listens to his dog.
(May 13, 2013 at 9:48 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Reason itself is a set of empirical observations (and susceptible to further observation and revision) of how our universe appears to behave, and how "proper", useful, or workable thoughts and propositions can be formed. It isn't some gift that we were granted as a system. We built it.
W.V. Cline, Hilary Putnam, and Michael Dummett bud, enjoy. You want some higher thing, but whether or not it's there, or that it's required if it is, well.......
Nice to see your butt humping and slapping avatar at it again. I missed that little guy.
I agree that the constructs of reason are fantastic and all props to all who have had a hand in their construction.
