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Men and Women equal? No, never.
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RE: Men and Women equal? No, never.
(May 15, 2013 at 1:23 am)Shell B Wrote: Let's clear this up. You may have been talking about the feds the whole time, but your first post was a response to me and I was not talking about the feds. Therefore, these pages that you want to insinuate that I did not read have been a massive waste of time all based on your first strawman. Hate to break it to you, buddy, but I did read it and you have been arguing with the scarecrow for quite some time. I'm not going to waste more of my time trying to make that clear. Sorry. If you want to only make statements about the feds, then you are not debating with me, since that is not, nor was it ever, my argument. I suppose you'll have to find someone who actually thinks the feds mandate paid maternity leave because that is not me. What a silly thread.
A response in which I explicitly stated that the vast majority of it was directed at Mo ...........

Since we're clearing anything at all up, Shell. There are 5 states that have paid leave addendums- of any kind. 5 (if you can find more, then good- I can't). No one forces anyone to operate a business in any of these states. No one has to subject themselves to these laws. You can operate a business in the vast majority o the us without ever having to deal with this (and theres good reason to do exactly this) This is not the situation that Mo is apparently in where he's at.

I'm not throwing my support behind those laws - I think they blow. But trying to draw any comparison between the US -at any level- and the situation that Mo presented us with -as an example of some demonstrated inequality between men and women mind you....is unworkable.

If anything useful came from whatever misunderstanding arose here, for me anyway, it's that I approached this in the wrong way for Mo. I should have mentioned that the sort of discrimination he was describing was discrimination based upon a reasonable expectation of monetary loss - not something limited to a female applicant, and so definitely not any example of how men were "just better" for something - or a reason to hire a man over a woman on that count.
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Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 14, 2013 at 6:01 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 14, 2013 at 6:19 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by paulpablo - May 14, 2013 at 6:44 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Tiberius - May 14, 2013 at 6:24 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 14, 2013 at 6:41 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Angrboda - May 14, 2013 at 7:39 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Tonus - May 15, 2013 at 8:46 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 15, 2013 at 8:50 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Sal - May 21, 2013 at 6:03 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by cneron - May 14, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 14, 2013 at 6:52 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by pocaracas - May 14, 2013 at 6:52 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Shell B - May 14, 2013 at 7:01 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by paulpablo - May 14, 2013 at 7:02 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Violet - May 15, 2013 at 3:59 am
Re: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by NoraBrimstone - May 14, 2013 at 7:08 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 14, 2013 at 7:11 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by paulpablo - May 14, 2013 at 7:13 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Psykhronic - May 14, 2013 at 7:19 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 14, 2013 at 8:06 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Psykhronic - May 14, 2013 at 8:10 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 14, 2013 at 8:02 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Darkstar - May 14, 2013 at 8:05 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Shell B - May 14, 2013 at 8:02 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 14, 2013 at 8:11 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Psykhronic - May 14, 2013 at 8:15 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 14, 2013 at 8:18 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Psykhronic - May 14, 2013 at 8:21 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Shell B - May 14, 2013 at 8:23 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 14, 2013 at 8:31 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Violet - May 15, 2013 at 5:09 am
Re: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by NoraBrimstone - May 14, 2013 at 8:24 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 14, 2013 at 8:42 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by festive1 - May 14, 2013 at 8:36 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Faith No More - May 15, 2013 at 8:47 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by festive1 - May 15, 2013 at 10:00 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Cinjin - May 14, 2013 at 8:55 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 15, 2013 at 7:19 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Shell B - May 14, 2013 at 9:36 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Shell B - May 14, 2013 at 10:36 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Shell B - May 14, 2013 at 11:16 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Whateverist - May 14, 2013 at 11:04 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Shell B - May 15, 2013 at 12:14 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Whateverist - May 15, 2013 at 1:23 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Violet - May 15, 2013 at 5:27 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Shell B - May 15, 2013 at 1:23 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by The Grand Nudger - May 15, 2013 at 1:28 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Shell B - May 15, 2013 at 9:31 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by frankiej - May 15, 2013 at 5:16 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Tiberius - May 15, 2013 at 7:06 am
Re: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by NoraBrimstone - May 15, 2013 at 7:27 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Violet - May 15, 2013 at 2:08 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 15, 2013 at 2:27 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 15, 2013 at 7:36 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by festive1 - May 15, 2013 at 7:39 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Kayenneh - May 15, 2013 at 7:52 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 15, 2013 at 8:02 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by festive1 - May 15, 2013 at 8:04 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 15, 2013 at 8:27 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by festive1 - May 15, 2013 at 10:17 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 15, 2013 at 8:37 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 15, 2013 at 8:41 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by pocaracas - May 15, 2013 at 8:51 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 15, 2013 at 8:56 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by MysticKnight - May 15, 2013 at 9:36 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 15, 2013 at 9:48 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Faith No More - May 15, 2013 at 9:55 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by MysticKnight - May 15, 2013 at 9:58 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Faith No More - May 15, 2013 at 10:12 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 15, 2013 at 10:41 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by NoraBrimstone - May 15, 2013 at 11:45 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Violet - May 15, 2013 at 2:39 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by downbeatplumb - May 20, 2013 at 3:46 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by MysticKnight - May 15, 2013 at 10:09 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by festive1 - May 15, 2013 at 10:58 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 15, 2013 at 11:06 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by MysticKnight - May 15, 2013 at 11:20 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by MysticKnight - May 15, 2013 at 11:02 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Tiberius - May 15, 2013 at 1:58 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by pocaracas - May 15, 2013 at 2:47 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 20, 2013 at 3:37 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 20, 2013 at 3:58 pm
Re: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by NoraBrimstone - May 20, 2013 at 3:40 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by davidMC1982 - May 21, 2013 at 9:09 am
Re: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by NoraBrimstone - May 21, 2013 at 9:12 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by davidMC1982 - May 21, 2013 at 9:34 am
Re: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by NoraBrimstone - May 21, 2013 at 9:48 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 21, 2013 at 1:06 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Violet - May 22, 2013 at 2:06 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by littleendian - May 21, 2013 at 10:30 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Sal - May 21, 2013 at 5:09 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by davidMC1982 - May 21, 2013 at 10:50 am
Re: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by NoraBrimstone - May 21, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 21, 2013 at 1:21 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 21, 2013 at 1:34 pm
Re: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by NoraBrimstone - May 21, 2013 at 1:46 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 21, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by FlyingNarwhal - May 25, 2013 at 8:40 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Psykhronic - May 25, 2013 at 9:28 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Gilgamesh - May 26, 2013 at 6:20 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Psykhronic - May 26, 2013 at 8:12 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by FlyingNarwhal - May 25, 2013 at 12:11 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by bennyboy - May 25, 2013 at 5:16 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by dazzn - May 26, 2013 at 6:17 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by ideologue08 - May 26, 2013 at 8:21 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by dazzn - May 26, 2013 at 11:23 pm
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Zen Badger - May 27, 2013 at 7:07 am
RE: Men and Women equal? No, never. - by Gilgamesh - May 27, 2013 at 2:04 pm

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