RE: Poor Fundies.....Hell is A Literary Construct, Too!
May 23, 2013 at 10:25 am
(This post was last modified: May 23, 2013 at 10:28 am by Neo-Scholastic.)
(May 23, 2013 at 8:54 am)Faith No More Wrote: Do you think there would be a significant change in your behavior and how you treated people if it was conclusively proven that god did not exist?In my own case I did act differently when I stopped believing in god. I slowly became more motivated by civil obedience and preserving my reputation than I did for cultivating integrity or a genuine concern for others. And yes, I did things I very much regret, but at the time they seemed benign or trivial. YMMV
(May 23, 2013 at 8:54 am)Faith No More Wrote: What makes you think that humans cannot find significance or meaning on their own?I don't deny that they can. What I deny is that 'meaning' in the broadest sense of the term, a real relationship between signs and the things they signify, has no foundation apart from a higher order of reality than the physical universe.* For example, you can stack bricks without knowing the theory of gravity. Similarly, you can find purpose without knowing what lies behind your ability to do so.
(May 23, 2013 at 8:54 am)Faith No More Wrote: ...even if your god exists, you sell yourself short.That's what she said. =-)
As for the rest, we just disagree.
*While I am aware of some physical theories that posit an emergent higher order within the physical universe, I personally find those theories less than compelling, since to me the very idea of emergent properties tacitly accepts some kind of transcendent order.
(May 22, 2013 at 11:37 pm)smax Wrote: how did you manage to go from Atheism to Christianity using "logic"?It was an existential choice, similar to Kierkegaard. Faith is what you reason from not what you reason to.