RE: Refuting Evolution
May 25, 2013 at 7:18 am
(This post was last modified: May 25, 2013 at 7:20 am by Muslim Scholar.)
(May 25, 2013 at 5:58 am)cneron Wrote: The numerous "refutations" of evolution I've heard over the years almost always share one common trait: misrepresentation of what evolution is. Sometimes the misrepresentation is the result of ignorance, willful or otherwise, sometimes it's intentional, but you inevitably hear the same tired crap about tossed coins, transitional forms, self-assembling 747s, the existence of modern apes, irreducibility, hair-splitting over the meaning of "theory" and the term "random chance," blah blah blah, etc., ad nauseam.all what you said is just blah blah blah, etc.
Some basics, because I confess I'm not going to bother reading the Quran, all the responses to the original post or the numbered installments that followed it, just to debate an idea that was embraced by educated people more than 150 years ago:
Quote:1) Atheism and evolution have nothing to do with one another. There are evolutionists who are not atheists. There are atheists who are not evolutionists.They are two related mental disease that need one treatment.
Quote:2) Nobody who understands the theory of evolution ever said man came from apes. They said apes and man shared a common ancestor.No problem, I'll just follow your beliefs about Evolution!
Quote:4) Saying that all animals but man have evolved is Human Supremacy, born---as all supremacy movements are---of that fertile couple, Insecurity and Ignorance.According to Islam there will be clues in fossils that something similar to human existed
Human (Adam) creation cannot be proved by Fossil record except that you will find a big Gap in human evolution, and it will never be filled.
Quote:5) Fossilization is the rare exception, not the rule. There have been many billions of plants and animals throughout time, but there are considerably fewer fossils.Wrong, Fossils will represent the same logical probability of individual occurrences of any development
So my question still stands; where all the non-sense mutations?
Quote:6) Random chance is not at the core of the theory of evolution; a simple observable principles is: life forms are affected by outside factors. That's all.Very stupid, any random experiment is affected by factors (still random)
Quote:8) Impacted wisdom teeth, inflamed appendixes and spontaneous abortion are the results of either evolution or a stupid designer.Or by a designer who created them like that on purpose, he did not create us to live forever, Asserting something and consider it a fact then using it as refutation is logical cheating.
Quote:9) A theory is a statement that encompasses and is supported by accepted facts and withstands critical observation. The theory of gravity, for example.Evolution is a (not proved theory) it may be possible, but the part about UN-intelligence is a very stupid assertion against logic and science.
Quote:10) Creationism is not a theory. It's an unsupportable prehistoric myth about a magic trick performed by fictional character.Intelligence is proved by logic, statistics and science as well.
(May 25, 2013 at 4:05 am)Dragonetti Wrote: Brainwash? How so?Because my beliefs are proved, while yours is based on human errors (and desires)
You take your morals, science, and education from one book written around 700 AD.
We change our view with the learning of new scientific ideas, and you do not.