(May 28, 2013 at 8:04 pm)Consilius Wrote:"I can't explain away a direct quote that interjects with a persons Free Will, so I'm gonna pretend it's not there and just act as if the person would act in that manner despite God's actions."(May 28, 2013 at 7:55 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: "And the Lord hardend Pharao`s heart"
Do you know this phrase????
I do, and it means god doesnt give a fuck about free will.
When the Bible was written, everyone was a theist. That's why it needs interpretation. God knew what Pharaoh would do to the Israelites, but, at the same time, he KNEW it was going to happen, and at the time that he wanted. He didn't make Pharaoh hate Moses in the other sense.
Of course, the awestruck Jewish men who wrote the Torah gave God credit for their Exodus in a much more direct manner. To take that part literally, would, of course, contradict the Bible.
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