(May 29, 2013 at 12:41 pm)Stue Denim Wrote: Actually Germans, yes, our (Australian) labor party and prime ministers have been awful on gay rights and on not establishing a theocracy.
Sorry to bring you the news: Australia is not the world.
Nore does it provide a standard on which the worlds political movements can be called right wing or left wing.
Egyptian conservatives legalised female circumcision
German conservatives have more female members than any other party in Germany
British conservatives legalised gay marrige
South African Left wingers privatised the entire natural resources industry of their country
German left wingers cut social spending and privatised parts of the state economy.
American right wingers are strong supporters of Israel
Hungarian right winger believe there is a Jewish conspiracy to make Hungary the second Israel.
There is absolutly no international standard on determining the political possition of a party, only local ones which keep account of the regional specifications of culture, history and politics.
And if a party wants to establish greater federal power or cut it, is certainly not the standard.
It is simply named by you as the standard so you can possition yourself as standing above everything else.
Quote:And their other policies? I have no issues with calling them backwards nonsense.
Irrelevant what you may think, Australian politics are not a international standard on which political movements arround the world orientate themselves.
Quote:Obama's only recently 'evolved' and there are video's of Hilary Clinton & Harry Reid being pretty bigoted in terms of gay marriage if you care to search for em (not anymore of course, oh no, they've all seen the light)
Gay rights is also not the international standard.
Quote:Eh, I would argue that the traditional one dimensional left/right spectrum attempts to encompass many issues.
No it does not. Your proposal of determening if a political movement is right wing or left wing, by asserting it through standards set by yourself which then leads to the movements possition being determined through if you aprove of it`s policies or not - is the one sided one, because it ignores all other factors.
Quote:And more medicare, and more bailouts, and more subsidies...
Just like I thought.
You have no interest in determening a political movements alligance to the right or left, you simply judge them over wether you can aprove of them or not through your own view.
