Healthcare in America

[Eilonnwy]

I don't hate Obama because he hasn't implemented radical change yet, that is silly. I hate Obama, and have since I figured him out years ago, because he is part of this whole dog and pony show. Obama is an actor, a figurehead, a person chosen and groomed to be a shiny president (and look how shiny after 8 years of illegal Bush Jr), and the agenda he is furthering is the exact same as has been for the last 4 presidents.

Oh Pippy, I thought we went over this one already. You have no evidence except a few carefully mined "facts" that prove nothing. You should know by now we don't by into conspiracy theories that don't provide an ounce of legitimate proof.

Obama's hands aren't tied because some shadow government is running the show, his hands are tied because congress is ineffective. The Democrats have been trying to make healthcare bipartisan, but the republicans won't have it. In fact all the evidence shows they will do everything they can to stop healthcare because they think it will be like a victory that will get a republicans elected in the senate in 2010 and presidency in 2012.

Meanwhile the Democrats aren't as single minded as the Republicans are, and you have the centrists, the leftists all arguing about what should be done. It's a mess.