RE: My Loss of faith has caused severe depression
June 5, 2013 at 9:52 pm
(This post was last modified: June 5, 2013 at 9:57 pm by Aran.)
(June 5, 2013 at 9:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Why is that a dilemma -for you-? People may not agree with your opinions on the moral status of any given thing, and?
If I'm being perfectly honest with myself, it may be fear. When I was a believer I had confidence that good old God was policing the universe. God prescribed a definitive moral code, and deviation from this code was wrong. My dilemma probably stems from a lack of confidence in humankind which I can't seem to be rid of.
(June 5, 2013 at 9:50 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote:(June 5, 2013 at 9:43 pm)Aran Wrote: The dilemma for me is that the morals we create have no intrinsic value, as money has no intrinsic value. There is no moral code set in stone. What one man considers righteous as per his moral code may well be abhorrent to another.
Well, to me there is no such thing as "intrinsic" concerning concepts resulting out of human thought. All we create, from moral values to social, economic and political concepts have nothing are the results of thought rater than "of higher decent" (if I understood you correctly).
I can understand how this may seem frightening at first, but it also gives one curiosity and motivation to participate in this endless journey of finding truth through thought. We define rightousness and right and wrong, through what we considere to be the best for our society - and the fact that we thereby determine our own desteny and lives is to me something grand, that stands way above being dictated laws and codes by a authoritarian being whos claim to power is a fascist claim of supiriority.
Thank you. The problem may well stem from a fear of sorts.
(June 5, 2013 at 9:47 pm)Walking Void Wrote:Quote:I don't know why exactly I became a Sikh. All I know is that it made me feel truly happy.
Maybe before religion, there was nothing to interest or distract You. When I was a christian, I was irrationally secure by being able to fit in with the community. You can be happy with other people regardless of the rules that dictate or try to dictate your life, just look to other people. Minus the trolls, of course.
Quote:But now my world-view is dim and pessimistic. There is no objective morality in the atheist universe. There is no such thing as goodness. It has no inherent value. Human nature appears increasingly dark and selfish to me. Our lives have no meaning. Everything is chaos.
The thing is, objective morality is decided by other people. You have to determine yourself if the objective morality is righteous by questioning it.
Goodness differs by the person You ask. I suggest that video games are not good but fun. Anti-video game lobbyists like PETA vs. Pokemon suggest that (especially violent) video games are evil.
We all value anything differently.
Human nature is dark but holds potential to improve over time.
Life has no meaning because life is not defined. Even the stillest of metals are made of atoms that actively volley left and right through our space-time.
Everything is unknown but We can still find patterns.
Well wishes to You.
I guess I'll just have to determine goodness for myself. Much appreciated.