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In a world without God...
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RE: In a world without God...
(June 7, 2013 at 9:25 am)Rhythm Wrote:
(June 7, 2013 at 8:13 am)Drich Wrote: If these things are true in a world you believe to be with out God, then why can the very same explanation work in a world with God?
Why -can't- I'm assuming you meant to ask? Who said they couldn't? I see nothing in those explanations which wouldn't work in a world with an indifferent god, a capricious god, or a powerless god- for example. Each type of god has been bandied about from time to time, place to place.

You also forgot to add a world where God has turn the world over to man, and man hands it over to Satan. Leaving us in a place where we must face the consenquence of sin. Being made to face the consenquence/being place in a world where sin is allowed to abound, does two things.
The first it seperates those who want to live in a place without sin from those who do not.
the second it give those who do not want to live an eternity under God's authority a place where their hearts can truly demonstrate their desire to be apart from God. So when Final judgement is levied against the separatists, they will know their fate is just and one of their own choosing.

(June 7, 2013 at 9:29 am)Esquilax Wrote: Well, then we go around the same circle this debate always takes; why bother worshiping a god that can help people with little effort, and just doesn't?
I did not say God does not ever offer help. I simply said God is not your own personal wish genie.

That aside we Worship God because we want to Love Him as a son would love a father. In your son father relationship do you only love your dad if he does what you will? What if your a strung out addict and need money for your next fix, but your father will not give it to you, does it mean he does not love you?

Quote:What wisdom or guidance could a god that simply stands by as countless whither and die possibly offer?
Death is only the unforgivable sin to those who worship and love THIS life above all else. We have been told that Ultimate love for This life some of us have, is reserved for God alone. If we Love God first, then we will have eternal life. If we love this life First what we have will be taken from us.
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