(June 7, 2013 at 9:56 am)Drich Wrote:(June 7, 2013 at 9:03 am)orogenicman Wrote: I never said it was, but since you brought it up, the main differences are that it refutes prayer,How so?
The Biblical examples of Prayer do not give the believer the power or authority to select or wish for an easier life for himself. In fact the model of prayer Christ gave us in Luke 11 has us praying that God change our life and out look to match His will. Not the other way round where we pray to change His will to our own.
But what your antiquated Bible may or may not say about prayer is irrelevant to the fact that the universe simply does not care, not for you, nor me, nor anyone else. Mankind is a speck on a speck on a speck to the 100th power smaller than the rest of the universe. To say that we are utterly insignificant in the cosmic scheme of things is a mighty understatement. Sorry, your prayers fall on deaf ears, not out of spite or any reason other than the fact no one is home to hear them.
orogenicman Wrote:refutes a controlling deity that can manipulate and/or perform miracles in contradiction to natural laws to our benefit, or that there is a god that has your best interest at heart.
Quote:The only thing the reality of this world should refute is your personal idea of God who's only purpose is to serve a man who formulates his wishes with a bowed head and closed eyes.. But, really really means it.
My idea of a personal god? Whatever gave you any idea that I believe in any god(s)?
'The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference between a mermaid and seal. It could not be expressed better.'
-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
- Dr. Donald Prothero
-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
- Dr. Donald Prothero
