In a world without God...

[Drich]

Have you not heard the Good New?!?!

Christ died for your sins (He was Nailed on a Cross) and on the third Day Rose from the Gave, thus conquering Sin and Death!

If he died, then he couldn't rise from the grave. Because then he isn't dead anymore, so it's like he never really died. Which makes the whole cross thing kinda like pointless torture.

See, here's the deal. If he died, and stayed dead and was sent to hell for eternity to pay for my sins, I can see where you might call that a sacrifice. But he died, then was resurrected (alive again) and now sits in heaven at gods right hand. But he died for my sins which means he took on my sins (and those of all mankind) which means he is no longer righteous and, according to your bible, has no place in heaven.

That's not a sacrifice. That's a Broadway show.

Then you do not understand the nature of the sacrifice give to us by Christ on the Cross. Sacrifice does not mean Christ must subject Himself to your measure of the word. The obligation to be your sin sacrifice was full filled when a sinless man was beaten, bled, nailed to a cross and died. What makes it a sacrifice is that The Father saw it as a sin sacrifice. End of story. Why? Because it is by His standard do we stand with Him in Heaven or fall into Hell, and not your own.

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Exactly. What kind of sacrifice is it when Jesus rose from the dead to sit in Heaven, and eventually return to earth? And especially since Christians get to spend eternity with him when they die?

what else did it cost Him? I mean besides physical death, what did it cost Jesus to be our sin sacrifice? Surly you must know if you can sum up His whole experience by asking the question you started out with.

And again, why would such a sacrifice even be needed when God is supposedly the all-powerful creator of the universe? If he wanted to forgive everyone, he could just do it instead of coming up with this convoluted "I forgive you but only if you worship my son" nonsense.

If we can not understand or relate to the spiritual cost then how is it are we expected to grow or develop spiritually? It is like the difference between a child who grew up in the 1920 and 30's durning the Great Depression and one who grew up in the 80s and 90s. The kids who grew up when times were tough valued and understood money goods and even the intrinsic value of packaging those goods came in. Everything was recycled, everything we reused and repurposed.

The more modern kids who had been given everything have no sense of value or connection to the world around them. They would not know how to survive if the stores stop providing their parents food. They were and are entitled consumers who have been disconnected from any life style that does not demand that things be thrown away if and when they are no longer useful.

How does this relate? When we see what the cost of redemption is then we have an opportunity to connect to God because we would know or at least have some idea of the physical pain Christ was made to endure, ultimately ending in His Death. I am sure God did not need to go the broadway play for His own sake as He knew the cost. We are the ones who need to be entertained to learn and relate.