RE: Unconstitutional surveilance programs?
June 8, 2013 at 4:24 pm
(This post was last modified: June 8, 2013 at 4:30 pm by ideologue08.)
(June 8, 2013 at 4:16 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Largely irrelevant, unfortunately.With respect to its legitimacy obviously yeah, but I still find it shocking and concerning and so should Americans in my opinion.
(June 8, 2013 at 4:21 pm)Tiberius Wrote:I wouldn't give this govt the benefit of doubt personally. I'm assuming the worst, their attacks on privacy and freedom has been extremely secretive and unhinged.(June 8, 2013 at 4:15 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Given Verizon's willingness to turn over call metadata, it would not be without precedent.Metadata is still quite limited. That doesn't make the fact they gave it over any better, but still, it's far from what the PRISM program is claiming, which is effectively that the NSA have direct access to the infrastructure of these companies.
In fact, I'd say that the fact Verizon aren't (to our knowledge) giving over raw phone data, the PRISM program probably isn't as vast or as in depth as claimed.