In a world without God...

[Mystical]

And what if you're the best son in the world, live as good as you can and meet righteous standards..and your father who loves you so much doesn't even bother showing up to your deathbed after a lifetime of faith based allowances that you've given him for not showing up your entire squalid, radically suffering life?

But we are not good sons or daughters... Matter of fact most of us will not even admit we have a problem, and yet want our heavenly Father to enable us to live the lifestyle we want to live, by acknoweledging us and granting wishes when we ask them of Him.

Drich, I get what you're saying. But I wasn't 'most'. I didn't consider myself special, but a servant. I was happy and content with dying if it served no purpose but his. My lifestyle was survival of my afflictions--afflictions that I thanked him for each day. I've always been the follow directions unwaveringly sort, and that I did. I made sure minute to minute that I wasn't at fault, by monitoring my thoughts, measuring the purity of my intent, and begging for forgiveness at the most minor of infractions. My mind belonged to god not to me. I have nothing to deny about those times, I was as devoted and pure a daughter of god that one could be. The faith of a child can move a mountain bit was what i lived by per example. I had banished any evil from my life, begged for forgiveness for my inequities, and shunned completely the ungodly acts I'd partaken as a teenager. I was as straight as one can get on that path and he was nowhere to be seen, the entire time, besides my mind.

Seems like the cruelest thing someone could possibly do to me. If I get to death to find this is so, I will have no problems telling god he's Evil.

I doubt that. for your eyes will be open to the self righteous standard you would have to use to judge God evil. (God is only evil if you use your own standard of good and evil.) To which begs the question what makes your self righteous standard have any value what so ever? What authority what power do you have to enact your want for good and evil?

God is evil in my eyes for a lot of reasons. But I find one in particular, at his own admission, quite troubling for the mere fact of its contradictory nature. The verse about god defining innocents. Babies are. Too tired to look up the verse atm bur youre so well versed im sure you know. God orders their heads bashed in and their bodies ripped from their mothers wombs. I honestly don't care if you believe such is justified. I don't, and if that just means I have more morality than god then so be it.

I find it ridiculous when I'm told that there are things on this earth we are tied to that we must give up. Why is there an automatic assumption that we are tied to anything different than you? When the same things (love for your spouse for instance) are lifted up as most righteous within your faith. What makes your love for yours any different than my love for mine? If anything, my love for mine is stronger because I put him first above all, not second behind god.

When someone asks this question I think back to 80's role playing Games for the Orginal Nintendo system (bear with When you first start out playing a game like dragon warrior or final fantasy you start with a character and character points or attribute point, which you can use to customize your character. For instance you guy has attribute catagories like Strength, Magic abilities, Stamina, Dexterity etc... And you are given a finite amount of Attribute points to accredit to your level 1 character. Usally it was just enough to give your guy 2 points in every category, or 10 character points in one category.

Now you ask How can I say my love for family be greater than your love for family if you put all of your character points into family first and I put my points in God first?

Quite simply put, God levels me up and my capacity for love is now greater than what I could love if I were to do it alone. Instead of maxing out at level 10. God has given me a level 40 love, (25 for Him and 15 for my family) that extended well beyond anything I could have ever thought possible. (As level 10 love was everyththing I thought possible before)

Quite literally I have God's love to give in addition to my own, and His love extends well beyond the point system I used to illustrate this precept.




To those who are faithful to what they have
been given, they will be given more. God gives us "X" amount of love to give (as we all have limits on our love even if we say it is unconditional) If we give it all back what He gives in return far exceeds anything we can do on our own.

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Eh I found a power multiplier in my mortal love. There is no forever in our eyes, so we love harder and appreciate eachother more. No god necessary. I don't understand what you're saying about what god does for your amount of love that you aren't providing yourself and could do without god?