In a world without God...

[Drich]

Drich, I get what you're saying. But I wasn't 'most'. I didn't consider myself special, but a servant. I was happy and content with dying if it served no purpose but his. My lifestyle was survival of my afflictions--afflictions that I thanked him for each day. I've always been the follow directions unwaveringly sort, and that I did. I made sure minute to minute that I wasn't at fault, by monitoring my thoughts, measuring the purity of my intent, and begging for forgiveness at the most minor of infractions. My mind belonged to god not to me. I have nothing to deny about those times, I was as devoted and pure a daughter of god that one could be. The faith of a child can move a mountain bit was what i lived by per example. I had banished any evil from my life, begged for forgiveness for my inequities, and shunned completely the ungodly acts I'd partaken as a teenager. I was as straight as one can get on that path and he was nowhere to be seen, the entire time, besides my mind.

I am the oppsite of just about everything you listed here. Why? Not because I want to be rebellious or to not conform. It's because we have been commanded to Love God with all of our being, and for me I can't do the greatest command we have, and follow that typical perfect christian model. If I were to do these thing my worship and praise would be empty and meaningless. One of the things we must understand is that when we worship according to the Perfect Chriatian model we are often times not worshiping God. We are worshiping christianity. Don't confuse worshiping the method of worship with worshiping the one we have been called to worship.

I go to God "Just as I am." Grace covers the rest.

God is evil in my eyes for a lot of reasons. But I find one in particular, at his own admission, quite troubling for the mere fact of its contradictory nature. The verse about god defining innocents. Babies are. Too tired to look up the verse atm bur youre so well versed im sure you know. God orders their heads bashed in and their bodies ripped from their mothers wombs. I honestly don't care if you believe such is justified. I don't, and if that just means I have more morality than god then so be it.

This is what I mean. You judge good and evil by given acts. In God's economy the act itself holds no value. It is what He tells you to do, and whether or not you do it, makes a thing good or evil.

Eh I found a power multiplier in my mortal love. There is no forever in our eyes, so we love harder and appreciate eachother more. No god necessary. I don't understand what you're saying about what god does for your amount of love that you aren't providing yourself and could do without god?

I cant find it but I did a series of posts on my wifes addiction. In short, about half way through her recovery, my love for her ended. All that was left was the reflection of God's grace and mercy he had for me in my life, was being extended to her. (As God forgave me and gave me another chance, I in turn was obligated to forgive her and give her another chance. So long as she did not exceed the bounds of the vows of our marriage I was tied to her.

Durning the worst of it her mother and father washed their hands (as did my Father, my mother still spoke with me.) We say our earthly love is unconditional, but it is not. All love has a begining and an end point. (Not confusing love with codependancy.)

God's love is conditional, but once one meets the condition H[/quote]e set that person will find his love to be boundless.