(June 12, 2013 at 8:22 am)Faith No More Wrote:(June 12, 2013 at 2:06 am)fr0d0 Wrote: It's very simple. You examine the information and test it's validity.
If it's so simple, how come so many people come to so many different conclusions? And why is it that you never actually specify the process behind testing its validity? You just say "test its validity," which I have done, and have come to a different conclusion than you.
(June 12, 2013 at 2:06 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Like I and my fellow Christians do on these forums daily.
What?!? I surely hope you're not citing the believers on this site as an example of Christian reasoning...If you are, that only supports my conclusion that your claims of reasoning and rationality are just that, claims.
(June 12, 2013 at 2:06 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I/we find no objections to the points of logic. You get to a point where the evidence to support belief is overwhelming.
And what I'm asking is how do you get to that point? Describe to me that journey instead of merely alluding to it.
I am not interested in a group of people patting themselves on the back over an ancient myth. The Egyptians patted themselves on the back surrounded by the false belief, and popular belief that the sun was a thinking being.
So it isn't even the "journey" I am interested in because the starting point is built on a naked assertion, so the "journey" is a house of cards built on sand in any case.
When a Christian quotes other Christians or the bible, they are doing the same thing Muslims do in quoting other Muslims or the Koran, hardly impressive and extraordinary mundane circular reasoning.
"I prove the bible with the bible"
"I prove the Koran with the Koran"
"This other Christian is smart so I am right"
"This other Muslim is smart so I am right".
What the theist is indulging in is conformation bias, not actual empirical evidence outside their own pet wishes.
