(June 13, 2013 at 8:36 am)Drich Wrote:(June 13, 2013 at 12:07 am)orogenicman Wrote: It was a simple question. You appear to be infatuated with one book. I just wasn't sure if you realized that there are millions of books.What other book Speaks of the God of the bible? Is that not what we are talking about? If there is only one book that speaks of the God of the bible then why go on a fools errand looking at 35 million other books?
Odd, that. I say odd because the title of the thread and the subject of the OP was about a world without god, not a discussion of god or what a world is with god.
Drich Wrote:Or did the topic change, and you just did not make anyone else aware?
See above.
orogenicman Wrote:I'm a published professional geologist, and have offered to take you on a field trip to show you why you are wrong.
Drich Wrote:Published as in writting correct? Then why must you show me anything? why can't you write the reason you feel that i am wrong?
Because field experience has far more impact intellectually and emotionally. You can talk about fossils and sedimentary layers in a classroom or in a forum until the cows come home, but there is no substitution for seeing them in the field IN CONTEXT.
orogenicman Wrote:Ignore my offer if you must, but don't come here making claims you cannot support and expect to be taken seriously.
Drich Wrote:So your denying the fact that over 75% of the fossile remains on display at the smithsonian are reproductions? That the majority of the displayed skeletons (including the one of the dipicted stegosaurus) are primarialy comprised of reproduction parts.
I worked at the Louisville Science Center for four years as assistant science curator, and am very aware of the fact that many skeletal displays are reproductions. So What? Skeletal and fossil remains are not only too fragile to be put on display for thousands of patrons to knock around each and every day, they must be stored in a climate controlled environment to prevent them from deteriorating. Moreover, such specimens are available to experts for study, but not the general public because they have neither the expertise nor even a valid reason for handling them. Again, if you truly want to learn something about geology, you MUST go into the field.
Quote:Maybe the reason a 'published geologist' is so confused about this is because these things are not rocks.. Maybe if you were a published paleontologist you would know what you were talking about... Until then I think it wise to not go on a field trip with someone who does not know the difference between a resin mock up and actual fossilized remains.
Wow, I knew you'd find a lame excuse for declining my challenge, but I had no idea it would be SO lame. As for my being published,
Read it and weep, dumbass:
Crinoids Of The Muldraugh Member of The Borden Formation...
'The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference between a mermaid and seal. It could not be expressed better.'
-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
- Dr. Donald Prothero
-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
- Dr. Donald Prothero