RE: In a world without God...
June 13, 2013 at 9:46 am
(This post was last modified: June 13, 2013 at 9:50 am by Drich.)
(June 13, 2013 at 9:28 am)Rhythm Wrote: Which is a problem why?Asked, and answered already.
Quote:It dates the garden as well.Book, Chapter and Verse. (BCV)
Quote: It also dates the planet by relation to the garden and man.BCV
Quote:"Any" amount of time could not have elapsed. See, heres the deal. -You- feel compelled to tie this story to reality, so -you- are the one creating a falsifiable narrative. If you don't like the dates given just give up - put the garden "a long time ago in a galaxy far away". I'm disappointed at how quickly your imagination seems to have fled in an otherwise imaginative thread when confronted with this unfortunate reality.Until you show the bible supports your first two assertions the conversation is over.
(June 13, 2013 at 9:29 am)Esquilax Wrote:(June 13, 2013 at 9:12 am)Drich Wrote: So if you wanted tangable proof of President Obama (not a picture or clip) and He stood before you, this would not be proof enough for you that he indeed who he says he is?
That said if you wanted to meet the President, do you think you could just text him and he drop everything he was doing to come proove himself to you.. Or do you think there is a proceedure you must first subject yourself to in order to meet Him? If we understand we have to respect the proceedures in place to meet a simple leader of a country, then why do we assume the Master and Commander of ALL of creation is at our beckon call?
A/S/K as out lined in Luke 11 is the proceedure Christ says we must to in order to have Proof of God. If you can not humble yourself enough to A/S/K then God will not 'see you.'
The flaw here is that we have independent means to verify the existence of Obama. We can see pictures of him, watch his speeches, even do some verifiable research into him if we want. Obama is not claiming to be miraculous and capable of suspending the laws of reality. So the fact that it may be difficult to get a meeting with Obama isn't so much of an issue; we know he exists because at the very least we can be in the same room as he walks past. He does have a physical presence.
Meanwhile, god; no pictures, no recordings, no verifiable witnesses. And what witnesses we do have vary wildly; you don't have people seeing Obama speak on, say, gun control, and have some people coming away with the impression he's in favor of it, and another group coming away just as fervently sure he's against it. Oh, and their Obama is eighty feet tall and can shoot lightning.
See, you can't pretend they're at all alike; the real, demonstrable evidence for Obama converges to a set of known facts. The spotty, second hand subjective evidence for god fractures and splits, over and over, and not a one of you is able to demonstrate his existence outside of simply demanding that he does.
Again not the arguement.
I asked would president obama standing before you be proof enough of his existance.
(June 13, 2013 at 9:32 am)orogenicman Wrote:(June 13, 2013 at 9:17 am)Drich Wrote: 'They' are living monuments to the fact that artisians know how to make fiberglass structures that look like dinosaur bones.
So, you are not only going to ignore my response, but ignore the real explanation for the above? Doesn't your god punish dishonesty?
wait your turn sport, everything has it own time. Everyone here gets the same treatment. i answer post in the order they were written.
(June 13, 2013 at 9:41 am)Maelstrom Wrote:(June 13, 2013 at 9:33 am)Drich Wrote: I Ask would Obama standing before you be proof of His existance?
Yes.
(June 13, 2013 at 9:33 am)Drich Wrote: In turn would God standing before you be Proof of his existance?
No.
So what would be proof? someone smarter than you telling you that there was a God?