(June 13, 2013 at 7:47 pm)orogenicman Wrote: Hypothetically, it can. But then, that would imply that your god is a sadistic, genocidal sociopath, one who is not omnipotent, nor omniscient, not immortal, not loving, not caring, nor even very intelligent.Does God make these claims? (I'm looking for book chapter and verse, not what you think.)
Quote:Hogwash. Curiosity is an eager desire to know; inquisitiveness.Inqueries can be also made without emotion therefore it is not an emotional response in of itself. It is another form of curiosity that can simply trigger emotion.
Quote: The term can also be used to denote the behavior itself being caused by the emotion of curiosity. As this emotion represents a thirst for knowledge, curiosity is a major driving force behind scientific research and other disciplines of human study.If it is possiable to be curious or inquisitive and not be emotional charged in any way shape or form then these attributes in of themselves are not emotions. These attributes simply trigger emotion.
Example: is it possiable to be angery and it not be tied to an emotional experience? What about joyful or excited? No. One can not be excited and not exhibit emotion. (BTW excitment is the emotion curiosity and inquisitive is the emotion being triggered.) Therefore Excitement, Anger, Joyfulness etc, are emotions. While Curiosity is not. Because it is possiable to be courious and not exibit or feel any type of emotional response while courious.
Quote:Oh my god! You apparently see Delvian vipers behind every rock. You should seek a mental health professional ASAP, because, damn. Are you sure you want to stick with that bullshit response?Another logical fallacy. "Psychologist's fallacy "
..and yes I am not into answering logical fallacies. (So I will be sticking to my answer) If you can not responsiably argue your point without appealing to logical errors then why would I chase your illogical arguement where ever you want to take it? This is known as setting boundries. 'Boundries' are apart of solid mental health. ;P
Quote:Erm, what? You say that you question the idea of an all merciful god and then tell us that he is merciful? Do you read any of this shit before you post it?If you do not understand a precept then simply ask the question. when you mask a question with a trivial assertion you look foolish when your question is answered.
God is not Omni-benevolent. Meaning No where in the bible does it say God is ALL Merciful. The events you all point out in the OT and the fact that there is a Hell proves God is not ALL Merciful. However The bible says God has mercy on who He has mercy. Meaning God's Mercy for those who follow Him is indeed endless as the Bible does indeed teach this.
So in short, God is not merciful to everyone. God's Mercy is reserved to those who Follow Him, and they show mercy to their fellow man.
Quote:Yes I have.Then you know I am right.
Drich Wrote:You do know we do not have a complete single source stegasaurus right? Every complete example comes from anywhere between 30 to 80 different seperate dig sites. and even then there are only a hand full of examples on the planet.
Quote:So what? At least you admit that they existed, right?The bones did, what they were kit bashed (how they were assembled) into however is anyones guess.
Quote:For the same reason I know that the incomplete humpback whale skeleton I worked to complete in the late 1980s at the Louisville Science Center was accurate.Actually no. It is not the same thing d-bag, because in the 1800's wale bones were collected from where they were harvested for their meat and oil, so biologists could record how and where the bones belonged as they came apart. Again the stegasaurus was put together using bones from 80 different dig sights with no idea if what they put together was indeed what the animal looked like.
Bottom line it takes more faith to believe there was a stegasaurus that looked like what we have in our museums, than it does to believe in God. Because God will reveal himself when one A/S/K, and well stego will just be whatever that first guy decided he was going to be.
Quote: Comparative anatomy, and forensic analyses. If you believe that the stegosaurus is not accurately portrayed, I encourage you to write a paper on the subject and get it published in a peer reviewed scientific publication. I wish you good luck in that endeavor.
there are thousands if not millions of papers already written. You just choose not to see them.
http://www.google.com/search?q=Papers+wr...3z1S_mE7-s
Quote:With all due respect, I'm not the one infatuated with a single book over 35 million others to the point where my entire life is based on it.You keep returning to this dry well as if it will produce the shutdown you are looking for.
Again let me explain this to you one more time. If we are talking about the God of the bible then it is to the bible we must go to find those answers. As this is my thread my rules apply, and guess what. We are indeed talking about the God of the bible.
Quote:See, this is where I am supposed to apologize for having a well-rounded educationThat's my point. It is not well rounded. You only see things or accept them if they are first prepackaged in bite size pieces that look like the pieces you were spoon feed while in school. Everything else is dismissed because it does not fit the profile of legitimacy you have been trained to look for. This is foolishness, because you close yourself off to EVERYTHING we do not currently understand, and everything elses that can not fit this current model. Education should be one of many tools one has at his disposal in the search for wisdom and Truth. But instead your education is your wisdom and truth.
Do you not see the error in that? No of course you don't. Let me explain. Your 'education' is only as pure (close to wisdom and truth) as those who compile it want it to be, and if your apart of the system then your not in a position to truly question it (in a radical way if need be.)
For example the Nazi's had educated men did they not? Do you think that what they were taught about evolution was/is the same thing you were taught? No of course not. (Lest you are of the white supermency cloth) The point being education/the system in which we are taught to collect, process and classify data is subject to the will and whim of the soceity that it resides in. So for instance if a soceity decides to say their primary race is better than all others then you will be hard pressed to argue that fact and remain in the good graces of the 'educated' in that soceity.
In the same way if a soceity says there is no God, then subsequently the education system will be constructed in such a way as to reflect what ever the 'educated' wish to promote. An example is the standby arguement is there is no proof of God. This is not true, there is proof lots of proof, but it is dismissed by those who hold the keys to education. For they have designed a system to exclude any proof that they do not approve of.
This is when truth takes a back seat to an 'approved education.' So no your not well rounded even though you'd call yourself that. At best your an 'educated man.'