(December 21, 2009 at 5:58 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(December 20, 2009 at 10:15 pm)Joe Bloe Wrote: That sounds like you are saying that humans are basically immoral and Christianity is required to overcome the problem. I disagree.
Yep that's right. The Adam and Eve story was basically establishing that fact. It's the basis of Christianity, and most religions.
Now I don't think animals are bad, but what humans do it curb our animal instincts. We don't rape, steal, kill, when we feel like it, for example. It's not just a religious stance.
(December 20, 2009 at 10:18 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:and Christianity is required to overcome the problem.
Then it has been an abject failure in any case.
Yeah. It's an aim.
After 1,500 years I'd say its time to try something else!