RE: Why Secular Morality is Superior
June 14, 2013 at 6:49 pm
(This post was last modified: June 14, 2013 at 6:50 pm by Simon Moon.)
(June 14, 2013 at 6:17 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You don't know yet that you won't believe, unless you're claiming future knowledge. But let me assume that you're talking about a hypothetical.
You are correct, I may be presented with demonstrable evidence, reasoned argument and valid & sound logic that supports the claim that a god exists. My atheism is a provisional position, not a dogmatic one.
But I do know how my mind works, and I am unable to hold a proposition to be true unless it meets the above criteria.
Quote:You deny the truth until you can no longer. He continually provides you with evidence to convince you, and at some point you'll realize that together with your full potential.
I do not deny truth. I deny theist's claims that they have the truth.
What has been provided to me as evidence, does not meet my burden of proof.
Muslims and Hindus tell me that they have evidence also. I'll bet you have no problem denying their 'truth'.
Quote:As we deduce that God must be just (by constructing a coherent model) then God can be no other. What isn't just cannot be God. Is this what you meant?
Yes, I meant that your unsupported assertions and circular logic are meaningless.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.