RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
June 15, 2013 at 1:29 am
(June 14, 2013 at 5:55 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Insecurity?No... this wasn't part of our Sunday school lessons.
This.
I'll bet the number of believers that have been convinced by any of the philosophic arguments (T.A.G., cosmological, ontological, etc) for the existence of a god is extremely low.
This was in some ways: Quinque viae
(June 14, 2013 at 5:55 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: These arguments are used primarily to help the believer justify his/her already existing beliefs to be more rational in their own mind. They are trying to convince themselves that their beliefs are based on logic, and not just faith.No again.... GC was right in that we of Faith aren't trying to convince anyone of God's existence...including ourselves.
There's nothing "rational" about God. "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways my ways," declares the LORD"
Your logic is convincing yourself of things that are not understood, or believed!
(June 14, 2013 at 5:55 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: The evidence is that even after being showed the glaring fallacies that they all contain are pointed out, they do not stop using the arguments.
What "glaring fallacies" would that be? Because you don't have Faith, "they all" are not logical.
Quis ut Deus?