RE: In a world without God...
June 15, 2013 at 10:52 am
(This post was last modified: June 15, 2013 at 11:09 am by Drich.)
(June 14, 2013 at 1:28 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(June 13, 2013 at 10:28 am)Drich Wrote: "IN" would be the first word. You are telling me you can extroplate a date for the word "IN?" What would that date be?"the beginning" - of course. That sets our upper limit. What follows next? How might we correlate that "beginning" with a number, do you think? You've honestly never taken the time to work this out? Why might that be, do you imagine that the genesis narrative is just too mysterious to be considered...or that maybe you'd just rather not know...something else?
It's been completely 'worked out.' Has been for some time. (well before I started posting here.:
http://atheistforums.org/thread-14190.html
(June 15, 2013 at 10:33 am)Faith No More Wrote: The major difference here is that the old lady isn't telling you she'll take away all your money if you don't accept hers, which would no longer make it a gift. Then it becomes extortion used to strongarm a person into making the decision she wants them to make.
Such is the "gift" your god offers.
Ah, no.
God's isn't taking anything away. (Your thinking OT rules) You live your life and are subject to the consenquences of your desisions. So too are the terms of the old lady's gift. Whether you accept her gift or not, you live your life and face the consenquences of your actions.
(June 14, 2013 at 1:45 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I guess a world without god would be exactly like this one... There would still be pricks that invented gods and sheep that follow their words religiously. Yeah, pretty much indistinguishable from our current state of affairs, after all:
Adolf Hitler Wrote:The great masses of the people... will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one.
This is where biblical Christianity differs. It's based on a personal one on one relationship with God, not a mass following.
(June 14, 2013 at 3:25 pm)Rahul Wrote:(June 14, 2013 at 2:33 pm)Drich Wrote: Inqueries can be also made without emotion therefore it is not an emotional response in of itself. It is another form of curiosity that can simply trigger emotion.
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If it is possiable to be curious or inquisitive and not be emotional charged in any way shape or form then these attributes in of themselves are not emotions. These attributes simply trigger emotion.
Example: is it possiable to be angery and it not be tied to an emotional experience? What about joyful or excited? No. One can not be excited and not exhibit emotion. (BTW excitment is the emotion curiosity and inquisitive is the emotion being triggered.) Therefore Excitement, Anger, Joyfulness etc, are emotions. While Curiosity is not*. Because it is possiable to be courious and not exibit or feel any type of emotional response while courious.
*Emphasis added
The below quotes comes from:
Spielberger, C. D. and Reheiser, E. C. (2009), Assessment of Emotions: Anxiety, Anger, Depression, and Curiosity. Applied Psychology: Health and Well-Being, 1: 271–302. doi: 10.1111/j.1758-0854.2009.01017.x
Author Information
University of South Florida, Tampa, USA
* * Charles D. Spielberger, Department of Psychology, University of South Florida, Tampa, FL, USA. Email: [email protected]
Publication History
Issue published online: 15 SEP 2009
Article first published online: 15 SEP 2009
Found on 14 JUN 2013
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.11...x/abstract
Assessment of Emotions: Anxiety, Anger, Depression, and Curiosity Wrote:Anxiety, anger, depression, and curiosity are major indicators of psychological distress and well-being that require careful assessment. Measuring these psychological vital signs is of critical importance in diagnosis, and can facilitate treatment by directly linking intense emotions to the events that give rise to them. The historical background regarding theory and research on anxiety, anger, depression, and curiosity is briefly reviewed, and the nature and assessment of these emotional states and personality traits are examined. The construction and development of the State-Trait Anxiety Inventory (STAI), the State-Trait Anger EXpression Inventory (STAXI-2), and the State-Trait Personality Inventory (STPI) to assess anxiety, anger, depression, and curiosity, and the major components of these emotional states and personality traits, are described in detail.
http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/icb.to...litman.pdf
This paper was found in the Harvard libary of all places, I'm CURIOUS is that a good thing?
If you take the 15 mins to read it's message is spent trying to sell the idea as to why Curiosity is indeed an emotion much like your paper does.
How does that support my arguement? It's quite simple. If curiosity was already an emotion so many 'doctors' would not have to write papers to convince everyone else of their discoveries.