(June 16, 2013 at 7:29 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Secular morality is no more than a fashion statement. It never progresses. It merely changes.
Really?
There was once a time when aggressive warfare was simply politics as usual. If you were stronger than your neighbors, you invaded and took their stuff. The sordid history of empire-building as well as the accounts in the OT (by your gods orders) show this to have once been the case.
Today, aggression is recognized as a war crime. John V will be quick to point out "oh yeah, well it still happens". Unfortunately yes, see W Bush for an example. But society as a whole still recognizes that it's bad and seeks to punish it (W and Cheney can't fly outside America for fear of arrest). We're no longer in the justifying it stage. We're in the trying-to-stamp-it-out phase.
Same thing with rape. It should have been a simple thing for your god to outlaw. Instead, we've had to take the slow path. We're increasingly recognizing it's a bad thing, that it's not justifiable by how she dresses or whatever, and we're in the stage of trying to stamp it out.
Same thing with racism and equality
Same thing with sexism and equality
Same thing with slavery
On down the list. Humans are evolving not just biologically but also morally.
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