RE: Why Secular Morality is Superior
June 16, 2013 at 3:13 pm
(This post was last modified: June 16, 2013 at 3:53 pm by Rahul.)
(June 15, 2013 at 9:17 am)John V Wrote: Your position is illogical. If god's omniscience means that our every thought and action are predetermined, then we're not autonomous beings with any rights at all. No one calls Stephen King evil because his characters suffer.
Your concept of god is illogical. If god already knows that we will do something at the age of 30 or 40 that is so bad that he is justified killing us, as he did to tons of little ones in the OT, as babies, where are we free to decide to act differently?
God knows everything, right?
So he knows what you are going to do on next Friday morning. He knows it for a fact. And he's known it before he even created humanity.
So go ahead and decide to do something differently. You can't. God knew you were going to do that 13.7 billion years ago.
No free will. Nothing you have ever done was something that surprised god ever. He knew you were going to do that exact thing at that exact moment 13.7 billion years ago.
Are you starting to understand the problem? When you say my view of your fictional god is jacked, this should be a light bulb popping up in your head, that I'm just pointing out the logical conclusions of this god concept that are completely illogical.
Resolve those retarded logical conclusions to yourself, make sense of it, and then come back to us and debate.
You want to know something? No Christian has EVER resolved those things and come back to debate with any atheist anywhere.
Why?
Because they fucking became an atheist trying to resolve them.
You are compartmentalizing. Read up on it. All Christians do this. Heck, all theists do this. You are holding mutually incompatible concepts in your head at the same time.
Everything I needed to know about life I learned on Dagobah.