RE: Why Secular Morality is Superior
June 17, 2013 at 1:45 am
(This post was last modified: June 17, 2013 at 1:48 am by fr0d0.)
There is solid philosophy on secular morality, sure. That doesn't change its flawed nature as we've established. Your refusal to address that simple point is revealing.
You seem to deny that John and I accept the human ethical sense. Yet it is what Christianity acknowledges and calls the God spot. That instinct which enables us to reason God.
So you admit your ignorance on the reasoning for God. You make an accusation from ignorance then.
Begin to think about how a god might be logically possible. Any thought you couldn't dismiss you have you keep as plausible. If you can discount any at any time, then you can discount them.
As I've said/related many times, and is commonly available, is that a creator who is the first cause is pure actuality. It cannot be impure: be preceded by anything, or it wouldn't be first cause. It couldn't resist actuality or creation wouldn't begin. What creates we call good, and what resists creation we call bad. It has to be all good or it would defeat itself and not exist. So we can safely assume that it is all good.
The human judge always makes judgement with limited knowledge. He can never know if he is right. That's how judgements are overturned. So a human judge is just to the best of his limited ability.
So a judges attempt at morality is always unknown. He tries to be moral to the best of his abilities. But he could be completely wrong. His judgements could be immoral.
Remember we're not blaming the poor judge for his flaws. We're making a judgement on the action. The same as you're judging God.
Yet God cannot be wrong in his judgements, which is the angle the bible takes, as that would be illogical. Contradictory to the basic understanding of God as we can simply deduce using logic. The bible is consistent on this. It has to be.
If you accept Jesus you don't have your slate wiped clean with men. Only God. To God you are acknowledging your bad stuff and claiming his sacrifice for you to wipe it out. Good actions are meaningless if you don't mean it. That's why they aren't a free pass to heaven. You need to address the problem, not just act like you do.
You seem to deny that John and I accept the human ethical sense. Yet it is what Christianity acknowledges and calls the God spot. That instinct which enables us to reason God.
So you admit your ignorance on the reasoning for God. You make an accusation from ignorance then.
Begin to think about how a god might be logically possible. Any thought you couldn't dismiss you have you keep as plausible. If you can discount any at any time, then you can discount them.
As I've said/related many times, and is commonly available, is that a creator who is the first cause is pure actuality. It cannot be impure: be preceded by anything, or it wouldn't be first cause. It couldn't resist actuality or creation wouldn't begin. What creates we call good, and what resists creation we call bad. It has to be all good or it would defeat itself and not exist. So we can safely assume that it is all good.
The human judge always makes judgement with limited knowledge. He can never know if he is right. That's how judgements are overturned. So a human judge is just to the best of his limited ability.
So a judges attempt at morality is always unknown. He tries to be moral to the best of his abilities. But he could be completely wrong. His judgements could be immoral.
Remember we're not blaming the poor judge for his flaws. We're making a judgement on the action. The same as you're judging God.
Yet God cannot be wrong in his judgements, which is the angle the bible takes, as that would be illogical. Contradictory to the basic understanding of God as we can simply deduce using logic. The bible is consistent on this. It has to be.
If you accept Jesus you don't have your slate wiped clean with men. Only God. To God you are acknowledging your bad stuff and claiming his sacrifice for you to wipe it out. Good actions are meaningless if you don't mean it. That's why they aren't a free pass to heaven. You need to address the problem, not just act like you do.
