Frodo, your post is so disconnected with our exchange I'm not sure where to begin exactly or how to even make sense of it.
For example, "we" haven't "established" any flawed nature of secular morality. You can't "reason" any god, much less your own (even as a deist, I confess that my concepts of God are instinctive and not rational). We've been all over why honest mistakes are not matters of morality, a point I can't seem to communicate successfully to you. The Bible DOES say that Yahweh got some things wrong (specifically, in Genesis where he "repents" of creating humans just before the flood and then kind of repents after the flood where he promises never to do it again).
Hopefully, John V will do a better job when he picks up the banner again.
For example, "we" haven't "established" any flawed nature of secular morality. You can't "reason" any god, much less your own (even as a deist, I confess that my concepts of God are instinctive and not rational). We've been all over why honest mistakes are not matters of morality, a point I can't seem to communicate successfully to you. The Bible DOES say that Yahweh got some things wrong (specifically, in Genesis where he "repents" of creating humans just before the flood and then kind of repents after the flood where he promises never to do it again).
Hopefully, John V will do a better job when he picks up the banner again.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
