(June 18, 2013 at 12:38 am)ronedee Wrote: You're CLUELESS!
Mirror, mirror...
Quote:I asked you ONE question....ONE!
One question where your stock answer is obviously incorrect.
Quote:But, you don't have a clue how our kids will have values instilled in them.
Yeah, I really do...
Quote:I'll tell you how: video games, TV, Hollywood, the internet and the street.
Could you be any more of a stereotype?
Quote:If, and when you have your way...there won't be the slightest "moral value" in sight. No more "Golden Rule"... btw thats a plated .45 in the hood.
But "somehow" people of the world will just know how to be "good"...because it's their "nature" to be that way! Sure pal.
We're social animals. In order to survive we've evolved certain traits that maximize our chances of doing so. Co-operation is one of them, as is empathy, and an ability to value the lives and happiness of others in our group.
More than that, we live in a physical world, where we can say certain things about the conditions of life; pleasure is preferable to pain, life is preferable to death, and so on. These things aren't in contention, they're simply objective facts. We can use these to build up a more complex moral system, and we have. That's why so few of the bible's commandments are actual laws; most of them don't fit into a secular moral framework, because they aren't the source of morality.
Meanwhile, your contention is that the only thing stopping you from committing evil acts is that sky daddy says not to. That you're so completely morally bankrupt and idiotic that there's no way you could figure out that killing is wrong without having it pointed out to you. That you're only barely restrained from murder and rape at all times by your book of made up fairytales.
And you would actually call this a moral system?
And if not, if you could figure out this stuff without god, how can you claim it's the source of morality?
And if you are claiming he's the source of morality, then what about all those times he ordered immoral acts?
Educate yourself, dimwit.
Quote:You have no idea what is going on in the "real world". Absolutely none.
Tell us more about the magical place you'll go to when you die, please!

Quote:One day it will all hit the fan. And there won't be a place to hide. Keep your head in yurass, and your white flag handy ...you'll need it for bandages.
And we end with a threat, showing that wonderful christian morality so perfectly.
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
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