(June 18, 2013 at 7:14 pm)ronedee Wrote: Are you kidding me?! And you're calling me a dreamer and a dimwit? Have you been to Detriot lately? Don't! You won't find much "Co-op'ing", or "empathy"....or "value of life" etc.
That's cool. Let's paint all Christian churches with the same brush since it's not hard to find an example of one which is rife with criminal behavior and corruption.
Empathy and human life are of no value to Christianity. Hate your fathers, mothers and children, said Christ.
Quote:Who is "we" building a "more complex, secular moral framework" right now in this country? AAS?
Is anyone else believing this trash?
It's hard not to believe it once you take the blinders off. Christianity is entirely insufficient to form a moral framework of any value in the 21st century. What do Christians do to moral framework other than make constant attempts to tear down moral framework until it resembles something we evolved out of centuries ago?
Quote:What you choose to ignore is that there is NO ONE teaching morals to our children in this country. Not schools. Not parents. Not YOU!
I will teach my child morals. They just won't be morals which suggest that it's okay to commit murder if God tells you to.
Quote:There is a culture of death in our society. And it gets worse day by day. As the "commandments" fall, so does our consciousness.
You should rejoice in a culture of death, for what is Christianity than a cult anxiously awaiting the end of the world?
Quote:That message is loud & clear to our children! Its our actions that our kids learn from. Not some "co-op'ed value" that you think is born in them!
So, it's not "god's law imprinted on our hearts"?
Quote:But you refuse to acknowledge it. You point fingers, yet don't lift one yourself. You tear down any good that the vast majority Chrisitians have done, for the sins of a few. What charitible foundation do you belong to that feeds, clothes and helps anyone regardless of belief, or lack of?
You can stop trying to measure dicks via charity. Charity is by no means exclusive to Christianity, and donating money to your Church is the weakest, most half-assed form of charity imaginable. We taxpayers have 70 billion dollars stolen from us every year to subsidize your churches. As a human being, I donate to a handful of charities of which I am fond, and I do so out of human kindness, not because representatives of your sky daddy put a collection plate in front of me every Sunday.
Quote:You point to a hand full of sentences in the bible that portray God in exactly the light you want him in. Yet ignore thousands of passages that are profoundly great!
There are no passages which can make a mad god screaming for the blood of innocent children appear to be profoundly great.
Quote:YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you.
My desires are empirically more important than those of a make-believe mass murdering psychopath. Because I'm not crazy.