RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
June 18, 2013 at 10:32 pm
(June 18, 2013 at 7:23 pm)orogenicman Wrote:(June 18, 2013 at 5:16 pm)Godschild Wrote: If Jim Jone's followers had read the Bible they would not have met such a fate.
The killing of my enemies is not morally justified, I have not the moral authority to do such a thing, I can not judge my enemy and actually Christ calls me to love my enemies. He also says to feed and cloth my enemy if I find them hungry and cloth them if I find them naked. I will say this one more time, see if it will get through your thick skull. You are trying to drag the OT into the NT and that want work. God was establishing His people to bring in the Christ in the future, He established them (much as the church today), since then Christ came and God set up His church through the Gentiles to carry on the mission of Christ. There is no more need for the same judgement on people today and just to remind you it was not murder nor rape.
Well, that's a load of crap because I've said nothing whatsoever about the new testament.
And yes it most certainly was murder and rape.
Then you need to prove your claim, we claim that the verses mean what they say through judgement, you claim something different the burden of proof belongs to you.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.